Ralph Greene Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 (edited) The Taurus/Sable will haul most of the stuff people use a mid size SUV for. Large (huge actually) trunk, fold down rear seats, front passenger seat folds flat on our Montego. And near 30 MPG high way cruising. Our Montego gets 21-22 around town and I have registered several back to back tanks, measuring the gas, at 30 MPG before. New Taurus and Sable almost as good with more power. And more comfortable than SUV with high seating. What's not to like? A low mileage 6 speed auto version of Five Hundred or Montego makes a terrific used buy. I don't even have a complaine with the 3.0 engine. A new Taurus with the improved 3.0 would suit me as well as one with the 3.5. Edited June 14, 2008 by Ralph Greene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordFanForEver Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 The Mercury Sable is selling better now. Today i saw a gray Sable on the road and it was a nice looking car. I think it looks better than the Taurus. Hopefully Sable and Taurus keep sales high and strong as someone has mentioned above, I still have not seen one TV add advertising the Sable or the Taurus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 The Taurus/Sable will haul most of the stuff people use a mid size SUV for. Large (huge actually) trunk, fold down rear seats, front passenger seat folds flat on our Montego. And near 30 MPG high way cruising. Our Montego gets 21-22 around town and I have registered several back to back tanks, measuring the gas, at 30 MPG before. New Taurus and Sable almost as good with more power. And more comfortable than SUV with high seating. What's not to like? A low mileage 6 speed auto version of Five Hundred or Montego makes a terrific used buy. I don't even have a complaine with the 3.0 engine. A new Taurus with the improved 3.0 would suit me as well as one with the 3.5. I have heard nothing but good things from Five Hundred owners (no Mercury here mate) and ran into a old boss and he has a brand spanking new Taurus. I must say in person, it's impressive. As well, there are some used Five Hundreds out there so if you can score one, it's a good deal. Either way, the D segment is a viable alternate to large SUVs. In this locale, these sedans are painted in the same ignorant brush that they are wasteful BOF V8 gas-guzzler sedans the same as a unsafe rollover recall ridden Explorer. Some people I tell you. Anyway I'm confused by your last sentence Ralph. There's no D30 in the Taurus and IIRC, the PIP D30 is in the Escape/Tribute only. I don't think the Fusion is going to D35 as well. Thanks for the memories D30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daryll40 Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 I have heard nothing but good things from Five Hundred owners (no Mercury here mate) and ran into a old boss and he has a brand spanking new Taurus. I must say in person, it's impressive. As well, there are some used Five Hundreds out there so if you can score one, it's a good deal. Either way, the D segment is a viable alternate to large SUVs. In this locale, these sedans are painted in the same ignorant brush that they are wasteful BOF V8 gas-guzzler sedans the same as a unsafe rollover recall ridden Explorer. Some people I tell you. Anyway I'm confused by your last sentence Ralph. There's no D30 in the Taurus and IIRC, the PIP D30 is in the Escape/Tribute only. I don't think the Fusion is going to D35 as well. Thanks for the memories D30. What is the EPA gas rating on Taurus/Sable with AWD? This MIGHT indeed be a reasonable replacement for our Mountaineer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 (edited) What is the EPA gas rating on Taurus/Sable with AWD? This MIGHT indeed be a reasonable replacement for our Mountaineer. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/sbs.htm 19 mpg combined vs. 15 combined. It's also noteworthy that the MOD V8 is a better overall engine compared to the Cologne V6. Edited June 14, 2008 by Hugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Greene Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 (edited) Hugh....I was making the statement that my wife's 2005 Montego with 3.0 and extremely responsive Aisin 6 speed auto....it seems to always be in gear I need with just a little throttle.....is a nice engine/trans combo, and while I know the new 3.5 makes more power, it does give up some economy to the 3.0 in real world driving. So if the improved 3.0 were available (I know it isn't) in a new Taurus, that would be fine with me. I don't look to a large people mover sedan for my performance thrills. IMHO the new Taurus/Sable are excellent vehicles for the times....if not overly exiting. Edited June 14, 2008 by Ralph Greene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSFan00 Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 Meanwhile, it's Audi sibling (greenhouse anyway), get's 46 MPG now in Europe. Wouldn't a diesel like this be nice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Greene Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 (edited) I like performance cars just like many of you do....and have supercharged various Mystangs, etc. But I think our basic people movers have more power than they need, and would be fine with smaller lower HP engines....especially in a car that is aero efficient. A 3000 lb car with 1.5 to 1.8 L engine tuned for TQ and about 100 HP and well thought out transmission will get the job done fine. Especially if gas keeps going up, or stays up. Edited June 14, 2008 by Ralph Greene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilkilla Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 I was demoing a taurus and then a fusion...looked at monroney sticker and realized that the Taurus gets a better EPA rating than the v-6 fusion! I find myself showing them as much more as I can! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 shhhhh....don't tell P71 or his little brother p71 (little pee?) that Taurus sales are up....he'll want to devise a plan for sales to ensure body on frame construction forever What's your obsession with BOF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 the Taurus gets a better EPA rating than the v-6 fusion! I find myself showing them as much more as I can! Only Ford... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 I sold the family cow for some magic beans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 (edited) Only Ford... Like how the full-size V6 Impala gets better gas mileage than the mid-size V6 Malibu... Only P71... Edited June 15, 2008 by TomServo92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 Hugh....I was making the statement that my wife's 2005 Montego with 3.0 and extremely responsive Aisin 6 speed auto....it seems to always be in gear I need with just a little throttle.....is a nice engine/trans combo, and while I know the new 3.5 makes more power, it does give up some economy to the 3.0 in real world driving. So if the improved 3.0 were available (I know it isn't) in a new Taurus, that would be fine with me. I don't look to a large people mover sedan for my performance thrills. IMHO the new Taurus/Sable are excellent vehicles for the times....if not overly exiting. I see what you're saying. My father had a Five Hundred SEL w/ D30 and 6A and I understand. Correction to my last post: I believe the Fusion is going to the D35 as well. That been said, I think it could be tuned for less power and better fuel economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 Like how the full-size V6 Impala gets better gas mileage than the mid-size V6 Malibu... Only P71... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danup Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 Like how the full-size V6 Impala gets better gas mileage than the mid-size V6 Malibu... Only P71... As a Fusion owner let me say, for the record, that the difference there is that the V6 Malibu has the superior engine, whereas the Fusion loses in horsepower, refinement, and mileage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 (edited) As a Fusion owner let me say, for the record, that the difference there is that the V6 Malibu has the superior engine, whereas the Fusion loses in horsepower, refinement, and mileage. Also as a Fusion owner let me say, for the record, sorry, I'm not getting your point. I wasn't comparing the Malibu to the Fusion. But if you want to compare a CD3 with a comparable V6 to the Malibu, then compare it to the MKZ. I'll give you a hint: the MKZ gets better mileage. :poke: Edited June 15, 2008 by TomServo92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcsario Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danup Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 I wasn't comparing the Fusion to the Malibu, only the Fusion-Taurus to the Malibu-Impala. The Impala getting better mileage than the Malibu is a different scenario than the Taurus getting better mileage than the Fusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 I wasn't comparing the Fusion to the Malibu, only the Fusion-Taurus to the Malibu-Impala. The Impala getting better mileage than the Malibu is a different scenario than the Taurus getting better mileage than the Fusion. Your right, in the Ford, its the better newer engine that gets better mileage....in the bigger car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 (edited) Look at me!!!! Edited June 15, 2008 by TomServo92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 I wasn't comparing the Fusion to the Malibu, only the Fusion-Taurus to the Malibu-Impala. The Impala getting better mileage than the Malibu is a different scenario than the Taurus getting better mileage than the Fusion. OK, so in both cases the bigger car with the bigger V6 gets better gas mileage. Yep, nothing alike... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 Isn't it =worse= because the older Impala motor gets better gas mileage than the newer Malibu motor as opposed to the newer Taurus motor getting better gas mileage than the older Fusion motor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 Isn't it =worse= because the older Impala motor gets better gas mileage than the newer Malibu motor as opposed to the newer Taurus motor getting better gas mileage than the older Fusion motor? No no, its only because your a stupid cheerleader that you see it that way. If you were a normal person who wasn't drinking the kool-aid you would know the real answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted June 15, 2008 Share Posted June 15, 2008 Isn't it =worse= because the older Impala motor gets better gas mileage than the newer Malibu motor as opposed to the newer Taurus motor getting better gas mileage than the older Fusion motor? Yes, it is. The newer Malibu 3.6L doesn't even beat the old, thrashy Ford 3.0L and gets trounced by the Taurus's 3.5L and the Impala's old pushrod 3.5L and 3.9L V6s. In fact, the 3.6L Malibu barely bests the Impala 5.3L V8! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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