Blueblood Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 (edited) Your Focus does not have a 4.10 final drive ratio, so the Transit Connect can actually carry a significant load, especially in urban areas. The poor little engine just screams at highway speed, which is why the highway fuel economy is so bad. My Focus has a 3.92 I believe, I know it's 3.90 something, and I've got a better geared 5-speed, so the marginal FD ratio is lost with a 4 speed auto. Concur, especially when better alternatives are available. I just don't want to see it get bad reviews as I really like the vehicle. Edited June 5, 2009 by Blueblood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 As Nick said, it doesn't make sense for them to ship the 2.5 over, teach the plant people there how to install it for the short time they'll be producing it for US consumption. Isn't production supposed to begin here relatively soon (like the next couple years, if that) ? I'd think when production shifts here, you'll see new, more efficient and powerful powertrains. Don't you think it's a wise business move to start selling new vehicles with the right powertrain on day 1, one of these days? I'm just sick of always waiting until next year to get the new/improved engines. And it gives Ford a black eye in the press, and we know perception rules, and if you want to change people's minds about American cars, doing things the old way isn't going to cut it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 My Focus has a 3.92 I believe, I know it's 3.90 something, and I've got a better gearwed 5-speed, so the marginal FD ratio is lost with a 4 speed auto. I just don't want to see it get bad reviews as I really like the vehicle. if its design is kept in context it will be fine.....pretty obvious what its designs intent is...but I'm sure such meaningless stats as skidpad, dragstrip and 80 mph cross country trips ( and whatever else they can jimmy up outside its obvious designs parameters), will be mentioned in the interests of journalism.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Don't you think it's a wise business move to start selling new vehicles with the right powertrain on day 1, one of these days? I'm just sick of always waiting until next year to get the new/improved engines. And it gives Ford a black eye in the press, and we know perception rules, and if you want to change people's minds about American cars, doing things the old way isn't going to cut it. perhaps...but it hasn't quelled interest in my office from those with COMMERCIAL needs..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 if you want to change people's minds about American cars, doing things the old way isn't going to cut it. The old way was to bill a powertrain to a specific vehicle, deliver vehicle and powertrain at the same time, set astronomically high sales goals, fail to meet them, fleet out the thing, and then cancel it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 BECAUSE THE DANG THING'S BEING REPLACED IN A YEAR AND A HALF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Geez. Ford's got nothing better to do than throw millions into a low volume Turkish import that's being replaced in about 18 months. THEN WHY NOT IMPORT THE EURO-SPEC FOCUS HERE SINCE WE'RE NOT GETTING IT FOR ANOTHER 2 YEARS??? PEOPLE SAY WE SHOULDN'T BECAUSE A NEW ONE IS ON THE WAY IN 2011, BUT THEY ARE DOING IT WITH THE TRANSIT!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 perhaps...but it hasn't quelled interest in my office from those with COMMERCIAL needs..... I think the people that buy those fugly Honda Elements would be interested in it too, it has way more utility, looks a million times better, and is a superior vehicle in every way. The Sprinter seems to be pretty popular around here, I think a smaller version will do well for those not wanting such a giant van. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenCaylor Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Your Focus does not have a 4.10 final drive ratio You are correct. If he has a new Focus SES with the same drivetrain as the Transit Connect, it has a 4.2 final drive ratio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 THEN WHY NOT IMPORT THE EURO-SPEC FOCUS HERE SINCE WE'RE NOT GETTING IT FOR ANOTHER 2 YEARS??? PEOPLE SAY WE SHOULDN'T BECAUSE A NEW ONE IS ON THE WAY IN 2011, BUT THEY ARE DOING IT WITH THE TRANSIT!!! STOP YELLING IN PASTEL COLORS...YOU'RE HURTING MY EYES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 STOP YELLING IN PASTEL COLORS...YOU'RE HURTING MY EYES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 STOP YELLING IN PASTEL COLORS...YOU'RE HURTING MY EYES. Especially in the smaller text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 THEN WHY NOT IMPORT THE EURO-SPEC FOCUS HERE Because we already have a Focus. US: Focus EU: Focus US: ZILCH EU: Transit Connect See the rather significant difference there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Harbinger Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 (edited) I'm a stupid moron who knows that when I type in this bad of a font no one will read what I write. And since no one will read it, no one will reply. That will make me feel like I've won the argument, so I can resume my autoerotic activities. Oh fer crying out loud, if you're going to use a bad font color, at least use one that has some contrast with the background! Edited June 5, 2009 by Noah Harbinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Because we already have a Focus. US: Focus EU: Focus US: ZILCH EU: Transit Connect See the rather significant difference there? Is that what Ford said their reason is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Oh fer crying out loud, if you're going to use a bad font color, at least use one that has some contrast with the background! RJ, look like you missed one! http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/index...showtopic=32068 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Ford Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Is that what Ford said their reason is? It makes a hell of a lot more sense than 'let's just do it to piss of blueblood and the 50 other people in North America that fantasize about Ford of Europe cars' because, if anything, not dropping in the 2.5 6 speed into the TC is the same move as not importing the Eurofocus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 It makes a hell of a lot more sense than 'let's just do it to piss of blueblood and the 50 other people in North America that fantasize about Ford of Europe cars' because, if anything, not dropping in the 2.5 6 speed into the TC is the same move as not importing the Eurofocus. Yea, that's exactly what I said.. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 how?, cars been made on the same platform etc for years, tooling is PAID for, the only overhead will pretty much be shipping.... Marketing, training, tech support, warehousing spare parts, etc. are free ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted June 5, 2009 Author Share Posted June 5, 2009 Because we already have a Focus. US: Focus EU: Focus US: ZILCH EU: Transit Connect See the rather significant difference there? Another significant difference: Labor rates in Turkey must be considerably lower than they are where in the rest of Europe. It would probably be much harder to build any profit into the C1 Focus being imported here. I still don't even see how the TC will make any money being imported... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Marketing, training, tech support, warehousing spare parts, etc. are free ? hell...its not like the Connect is "high tech"....quite the opposite to tell the truth...simplicity personified.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelsonlu Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 hell...its not like the Connect is "high tech"....quite the opposite to tell the truth...simplicity personified.... It will have Sync, navigation, and Work Solutions available, would it not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Don't you think it's a wise business move to start selling new vehicles with the right powertrain on day 1, one of these days? You mean like the 2010 MKT and Taurus, both of whom get the 350+ HP 3.5L EB on day 1 (or at least really close to day 1)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 hell...its not like the Connect is "high tech"....quite the opposite to tell the truth...simplicity personified.... Yep, that's why it has a fuel injection system that is total unique ! No other US Ford product has a similar system ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 It will have Sync, navigation, and Work Solutions available, would it not? all plug and play...anything goes awray with electronics they just replace the whole unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Yep, that's why it has a fuel injection system that is total unique ! No other US Ford product has a similar system ! did not rightfully know that...how is it different... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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