Edstock Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 AUTOCAR Should I buy one? This engine is a game-changer. It shows just how much life remains in petrol engines of a suck-squeeze-bang-blow persuasion. And that nowadays there is indeed a substitute for cubic inches. Daft as it may sound, the tiny but super-advanced turbo triple – engineered in Dunton, England – confers a remarkable new layer of smoothness and refinement on the Ford's big-selling C-segment hatchback that is so obvious, so impressive and so refreshing that it leaves the four-cylinder models gasping. Steve Cropley's personal comments: Stunned by the new three-cylinder Ford Focus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fou_bleu Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Certainly sounds like a sweet little engine! Can't wait to see a video review to hear it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Now we wait for it to hit here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenCaylor Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 0-62 in 11.3 seconds? That's the same as my 1983 Escort. That's just a bit too slow for current US standards. Sounds like a great engine though for the Fiesta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTwannabe Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 0-62 in 11.3 seconds? That's the same as my 1983 Escort. That's just a bit too slow for current US standards. Sounds like a great engine though for the Fiesta. So, how many pounds is F-150 going to shed to use this thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevys Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 This will be sweet little engine in the Fiesta with a 6 speed manual of course. The question is when will the US get this version if ever? I know the Fiesta is at least several hundred lbs lighter than the Focus so if they could get the 0-60 times in the 10 second range or a bit less I think it would sell like hotcakes. That review didnt go into much detail but 50 something is impressive as all get out. I struggle to get this on a 1200 cc motorcycle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 This engine gets 20% better gas mileage than the 1.6 PFI engine in Euro and Aussie Focus by my estimations, it should easily achieve US EPA highway of 48 mpg. That will give diesel Cruze something to think about......:shades: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker16 Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 the prius goes 0-60 in 10-11 seconds. I thing Ford should bring it here. market it for what it is, a fuel miser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 the prius goes 0-60 in 10-11 seconds. I thing Ford should bring it here. market it for what it is, a fuel miser. If it's gonna be as slow as the Prius, it better legitimately match it in MPG. Otherwise, it's not worth the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker16 Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 If it's gonna be as slow as the Prius, it better legitimately match it in MPG. Otherwise, it's not worth the time. You are forgetting something. price. hybrid like effcentcy and a very non hybrid price. If it can match hybrid perfromance, come close to hybrid effcency at a lower price point than a hybrid it will be successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03 LS Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 So, how many pounds is F-150 going to shed to use this thing? How 'bout a 2L EBI6 for a Explorer SFE? 250HP/250TQ with 300TQ overboost (Sounds like a morden day CPU), sweet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 You are forgetting something. price. hybrid like effcentcy and a very non hybrid price. If it can match hybrid perfromance, come close to hybrid effcency at a lower price point than a hybrid it will be successful. That's what I said, Biker... If the efficiency is not close to the Prius, then it won't matter how much it costs; it won't move off lots. Check out Honda and how well the Insight and CR-Z aren't selling... considerably cheaper than the Prius and smaller, just about as powerful, but returning considerably fewer MPGs. And together moved fewer than 900 units last month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker16 Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 That's what I said, Biker... If the efficiency is not close to the Prius, then it won't matter how much it costs; it won't move off lots. Check out Honda and how well the Insight and CR-Z aren't selling... considerably cheaper than the Prius and smaller, just about as powerful, but returning considerably fewer MPGs. And together moved fewer than 900 units last month. I can see where you are coming from, but your concerns are not valid. this is not a hybrid. It will best the insight's hwy MPGs of 44mpg, it has more power than the insight's 98hp and more torque. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 I can see where you are coming from, but your concerns are not valid. this is not a hybrid. It will best the insight's hwy MPGs of 44mpg, it has more power than the insight's 98hp and more torque. OK, 1.0EB Focus Hybrid, how's our price looking..around $24k - same as Prius. I bet the fuel economy is now way better though, probably give Volt a big shock.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker16 Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 OK, 1.0EB Focus Hybrid, how's our price looking..around $24k - same as Prius. I bet the fuel economy is now way better though, probably give Volt a big shock.. why would it need to be a hybrid? 48Mpg non hybrid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 I can see where you are coming from, but your concerns are not valid. this is not a hybrid. It will best the insight's hwy MPGs of 44mpg, it has more power than the insight's 98hp and more torque. You'll have to pardon my pessimism, then, about whether a more powerful, heavier, just-as-slow car can return enough MPGs to be worth the time. I'm gonna "wait and see" on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 (edited) why would it need to be a hybrid? 48Mpg non hybrid. Two things: Hybrid add a bit more launch performance thanks to electric assist and would reduce that 0-60 time considerably.. Not only does hybrid dramatically improves city gas mileage, it also highway mileage by about 10% (Fusion) So you could have a non hybrid EB Focus that gets 48 m,pg and locks the door on diesel competitors (Cruze/ Golf) Ford could also do an aggressive plug in hybrid using the 1.0 EB and rip the guts out of Volt's potential sales.. Edited February 11, 2012 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fou_bleu Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 (edited) Ford could also do an aggressive plug in hybrid using the 1.0 EB and rip the guts out of Volt's potential sales.. This is sad, but that idea has me really excited! I would totally buy one of those! Focus Electric be damned! lol Edited February 11, 2012 by Aussie_Ford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKII Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 All this comparison with one of dullest driving cars on the globe (Prius) against one of the best driving cars on the Globe (Focus). UK MSRPs Focus 1.0 EcoBoost £16,254 Prius £ 21,055 Almost $8,000 USD more for one of the most boring cars to drive. Take your pic :reading: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 (edited) This is sad, but that idea has me really excited! I would totally buy one of those! Focus Electric be damned! lol You know, I have this feeling that a 50 mpg Fiesta will win more hearts than a pedestrian like Focus that gets 48 mpg. I could be very wrong but adding a 40 hp hybrid motor will put things right and give other hybrids something to think about.. Edited February 11, 2012 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 a 40 hp hybrid motor will put things right and give other hybrids something to think about.. "A 40 hp hybrid motor" And precisely, what would this 40hp wonder be, a 300cc EcoBoost 1-cylinder? Maybe some kind of stratified-charge design? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tboneguy Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Check out this walkthrough video of 1.0 Litre Ford engine presented by Andrew Fraser (Chief Engineer at Ford) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 (edited) "A 40 hp hybrid motor" And precisely, what would this 40hp wonder be, a 300cc EcoBoost 1-cylinder? Maybe some kind of stratified-charge design? No, motor as in electric motor, .. Check the posts above that one, I was continuing my idea of adding a 40 Hp electric motor to a 1.0 EB Focus and increasing fuel economy and acceleration so as to rival Prius and Volt......:shades: Edited February 11, 2012 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker16 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 EB 1.0 start/Stop and Powershift DCT. would be quite enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 EB 1.0 start/Stop and Powershift DCT. would be quite enough. Tthose impressive economy figures in an affordable car would certainly negate a lot of the diesel talk. Buyers would then start asking whether they really need a hybrid.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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