hermans Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Well you are a Moderator,,,,so I guess what you say is gospel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Well you are a Moderator,,,,so I guess what you say is gospel. That has nothing to do with it. Empirical evidence makes it correct, not my role on a message board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fastronaut Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 I think it is possible, but couldn't they rate separately the Titanium Hybrids instead ?Toyota does exactly that with the Camry Hybrid LE (43/39) vs XLE (40/38) It seems to me that the more Hybrids (of any type) sold by a manufacturer mean higher CAFE ratings since any hybrid pretty much ups the average MPG over standard gas engine vehicles ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggy314 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 My Mustang is black with a black interior. My old Mazda6 was blue with a tan interior. They both reached the same temperature when sitting in the sun all day: HOT. Research disagrees with you. And the reflective properties of asphalt vs concrete do not translate to the same reasons a car's interior reaches its ambient temperature in the sun. Here's some more anecdotal evidence. I have a black interior, dark blue exterior, I have sunroof that is pertetually cracked open. Results in a much cooler interior. I notice that the termperature is more dependent on if I have the sunroof cracked open or not. I would think the the surface temperature of the seats may be different, but the ambient temp of the interior would be fairly close as it it s the trapped heat causing the rise, not the reflectivity of the surfaces inside. The heat is trapped, heating air and surfaces, it's too late to reflect it. The surface would only be hotter in direct sun, but that's a suposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 My Mustang is black with a black interior. My old Mazda6 was blue with a tan interior. They both reached the same temperature when sitting in the sun all day: HOT. Research disagrees with you. And the reflective properties of asphalt vs concrete do not translate to the same reasons a car's interior reaches its ambient temperature in the sun. I don't think it's so much the temp in the vehicle, but the temp of the seat as you sit on it. I can sit on a light stone color seat after sitting in ths sun with mild discomfort, but sitting on black seat is next to impossible I found anyway. I will give you this...with sedans using such tinted privacy glass now where it's hard to peer into vehicle and see much of anything, it probably does cut down on heat build up somewhat. Of course with convertibles that doesn't matter much with top down. Anyway, choice is good for the customer and dark and light interior choices is a must to my way of thinking. Not eveyone has the same tastes, especially as color choices change in cold climates vs. hot climates where pastel colors rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I don't think it's so much the temp in the vehicle, but the temp of the seat as you sit on it. I can sit on a light stone color seat after sitting in ths sun with mild discomfort, but sitting on black seat is next to impossible I found anyway. I will give you this...with sedans using such tinted privacy glass now where it's hard to peer into vehicle and see much of anything, it probably does cut down on heat build up somewhat. Of course with convertibles that doesn't matter much with top down. Anyway, choice is good for the customer and dark and light interior choices is a must to my way of thinking. Not eveyone has the same tastes, especially as color choices change in cold climates vs. hot climates where pastel colors rule. Ehh...it wasn't comfortable to sit in my Mazda or my Mustang until the A/C had been running for a bit. In fact, they were almost near impossible to drive since the shift knobs (both sticks) would be so damned hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pers69 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I srtill think the black interior across all models for the Ti trim is a branding and cost cutting effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy62 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I srtill think the black interior across all models for the Ti trim is a branding and cost cutting effort. That is probably the case. I appear to be in the minority in actually likeing the charcoal interior. My 2010 Fusion Hybrid has a black interior and the only problem that I have had with the interior is spotting of the dashboard. Meguiar's makes a product that keeps it under control so a little elbow grease every so often takes care of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I srtill think the black interior across all models for the Ti trim is a branding and cost cutting effort. Sad to say, but I agree. Every year these auto company bean counters come up with another way to make getting the vehicle you want more difficult. Again, I was looking at 2011 Fusion SEL V6 other day in candy apple red exterior and light stone interior. Very appealing color combination, especially with another summer coming up. All the bells and whistles and very low miles. I guess fine used cars are the answer to the bean counters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I srtill think the black interior across all models for the Ti trim is a branding and cost cutting effort. Of course it is. If it didn't cost money to offer more colors, they'd offer 2 more, 5 more, 20 more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy62 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Isn't there a quote from Henry Ford that said: You can have any color you want as long as it is black. Or is my memory playing tricks on me again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pers69 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Of course it is. If it didn't cost money to offer more colors, they'd offer 2 more, 5 more, 20 more... Yes, I thought that obvious as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pers69 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Isn't there a quote from Henry Ford that said: You can have any color you want as long as it is black.Or is my memory playing tricks on me again? Pretty sure you are right. Perhaps it is all just a tribute to their founder after all? :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckokie36 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Add dune or a two tone color leather option to all models of the Titanium Fusion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fastronaut Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 Add dune or a two tone color leather option to all models of the Titanium Fusion. chuckokie36 - Let's hope they listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthsnipe Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 This is the exact reason why I ordered the Ford Fusion SE instead. I would rather have a somewhat two tone or bright color interior than the drab or bland black-on-black-on-black interior that is currently offered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gl419 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 (edited) I ordered a FFH SE with most all of the options. I would have ordered the Ti if I could have had the Dune interior. Doesn't make sense for them to limit the choices. Bad marketing in my opinion. Edited March 1, 2013 by gl419 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gl419 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I would have ordered a Fusion Hybrid Titanium IF I could have gotten Dune interior. Why only Black? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Bad marketing in my opinion. You're assuming that they want to sell more Titaniums. That may not be the case in which case it is brilliant marketing. Sometimes manufacturers have to limit sales of specific features or models due to parts shortages or CAFE compliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fastronaut Posted March 2, 2013 Author Share Posted March 2, 2013 At least they offer the Titanium in all the same exterior colors. They could have really limited production if they only offered a few colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malibu3105 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 They just need to send someone who can make decisions to Palm Springs CA in the summer and make them drive a FFH for a weeek with that black leather. They will change their mind quick. 110 is a normal day, going much higher on hot days. Will practically melt those seats!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fastronaut Posted March 23, 2013 Author Share Posted March 23, 2013 I originally thought "How can they do black?" I preferred Dune. When I finally saw the black, it was more like a deep grey, not as bad as I thought. I've had light leather too. In hot weather, you just have to let any leather cool down a bit. Not defending the single color choice, but just saying leather comes with baggage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbart948 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Companies today are not into customer support nor do they really care what we want. It is all about bottom line. I went through 4 dealers before I found one that knew anything about their product and was willing to work with me on trying to get what I wanted. Trying to get the style wheel on my Ti was just not allowed (unless you buy a second set from parts and put them on after your car gets to the dealer.) Really??? Now that is a company that cares about customer support. Ford needs to take a lesson from Burger King. Have it your way!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roach Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Well guys, if profits is all that counts, i Would gladly pay a little bit more to get a nice Saddle colered leather interior in my Titanium Look at the Sante Fe . Looks incredible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmarra2009 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Just read that the new 2014 Cadillac CTS will offer 8 different choices of interiors ! Now that's giving the customer what they want. I've always said I can understand possibly having just one choice of color for a "base" model but never can or will understand why Ford doesn't offer the choice on their top of the line Ti. We'll, maybe they'll listen soon their customers prefer having a choice.....I'll probably wait for the CTS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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