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I'm a Ford guy, but am going to continue holding their feet to the fire on this issue.

 

Last year I took pics at cleveland auto show, 5 of 6 mustang hoods had paint/sealing issues at front/side hems... had someone forward them to AAI, maybe it helped- the front lips on all the mustangs looked good this year- but several still had the paint blistering on the side hems, the black one has blistered halfway around the edge- barely visible when hoods closed, but creeping to the top... pics/vin in case someone at ford wants to track it down and diagnose what the heck is going wrong at AAI... I personally still dont buy the iron contamination/mastic boilout/e-coat boil out excuses ive read...still think its lack of deburring/painting a razorblade edged panel expecting paint not to fail when it moves due to expansion... I would suggest if they decide to look at it, dont return to AA/i, have a paintshop/engineering group affiliated with unaffected models dissect it and see whats really going on here. there were still a couple that had what feels like dirt in the paint, showing at a minimum, the prep cleanliness should be looked at- possibly this is just crap that didnt get cleaned before paint- in any event, ford MUST do a better job. this years displays in my opinion still showed the lowly hyundais as perfect, toyota a close second. all the others very good... ford I'd say is good except when it comes to hoods- more on other models to follow

 

sorry pics are so bad- flash with all the bright lights/contrast makes them look filthy or blurry- some spots you can barely see, others look like they were off roaded...no, the folks detailing the cars at the show werent that sloppy, the least little smuges with a flash 2" away look like it was just driven off a salty road or somthing- the cars were clean as youd see at any car show

 

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the blue mustang wasnt horrible, but the blistering is still starting there:

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vins on here-

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if you cant read it, fullsize pics are here- http://www.flickr.com/photos/83232178@N06/sets/

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the mustangs have hem issues, but SOMEHOW, somebody is missing what appears to be handling issues at assembly. two of three taurus had paint chips in exact same spots, one on both sides. the one side of the red one, almost certainly was a fixture pressing into wet paint, as you could see ripples in the surface above the chipped away areas.

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heres the black one, looked like more of a deep scuff on dry paint- same spot as the red one above, but you could see what appears to have been clearcoat adhesion points at tip of fender and underside of hood:

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Ford needs to crack down on these defects- sorry, but this is totally unacceptable when lowly hyundai can have every car on display perfect, yet only 1/5 of the Fords are even just OK when it comes to panel edge prep/seal/paint.

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on to the fusion/fiesta or whatever these were... again, either adhesion issues with wet paint against prop fixtures, or mishandling... chipped paint at underside corners. the little orange one actually looked very good, except there were bubbles in the sealant, where there was no paint, and it *looked* like either bare metal or just ecoat in there- definitely not orange, but a dull gray- yes its a tiny spot, but its all saltwater needs to start munching on your car.

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the orange festiva- sorry couldnt make out the vin pic

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i took dozens more pics, but they are so blurry, of little use... the above should illustrate a obvious ball dropping in numerous plants- PLEASE someone rattle some cages about this. there is simply no reason an American manufacturer should be lagging so far behind imports, it makes me sick, hope anyone reading this will feel the same. pester your dealers/write ford/insist on quality.

 

I really hoped to check out the aluminum f150 hems- this scares me as with what ive seen, if the sloppy work continues, the iconic f150 gould wind up hurting ford bigtime if the aluminum bodywork starts having mustang hood blistering issues all over it... sadly the f150 on display was a mockup, the door lowers were visible when open, but no seams...obviously filled/painted for display only

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The hoods on the current F150's are already aluminum. So you should see any paint issues on any F150 on the lot now. Not just the future all aluminum truck.

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The hoods on the current F150's are already aluminum. So you should see any paint issues on any F150 on the lot now. Not just the future all aluminum truck.

oh, I know... its not just Mustangs. its been all too common on most aluminum panelled ford vehicles

 

http://www.expeditionforum.com/f40/paint-bubbling-we-need-everyone-register-complaint-read-fords-response-16012/

http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1281100-bubbling-paint-on-front-edge-of-hood.html

http://www.f150online.com/forums/2004-2008-f-150/327906-paint-bubbles-where-hood-meets-grille.html

 

if the issue is still a issue and they are making the whole body aluminum, I see bad things coming down the pike. a lot of ford fans will tout new processes/engineering, etc I'm sure- but this stuff has been ongoing/unchanged for 10 years at least :(

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today a guy at work had a new Taurus loaner -his H3 hummer was in the shop, he was upset they gave him a Ford...I said it was about time he got some class :)

 

anyway, I was telling him about the auto show hood issues, we went and looked at his loaner- I didnt check the mileage or VIN (if he has it tomorrow I'll get them too) but the drivers front corner of the hood had the little adhesion spot, AND there was a blister very similar to that black mustang hood forming (about where the hood hinge ends on the side) that was just becoming visible around the hood edge.

 

anyone have any contact info for someone at the taurus plant- PM me and I'll email them these pics- someone on the line needs a talking to, this is sad.

 

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noticed some of the vins of the auto show cars pictured above arent readable after resize/uploading...

 

1ZVBP8FF4E5283640 BLACK TAURUS

1ZVBP8AM7E5283637 BLUE MUSTANG

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3FADP4GX4EM186955 ORANGE FIESTA

1FADP3K2XEL245431 RED FOCUS

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pretty sure carfax or something will pick up these vins in a search someday, might save someone a warranty hassle on one if they can show the paint was screwed up when brand new...

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You should have seen the paint on our first special ordered 2013 Edge. With the white pearl extra cost paint no less... Black overspray under the clear coat on the front fenders, trash in the paint (raised surface, easily noticable by eye or hand) on hood and passenger side D pillar. Ford said tough luck, we reordered another unit, dealer rejected the first one back to Ford. Our second one came with defective/discolored 'chrome' spots on the wheels.

 

I guess it shouldn't be any surprise my next vehicle purchased was an Infiniti, not a Ford.

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You would think with the prices you pay for these cars now a days they could at least get the paint right. No excuse, Ford, none, period.

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The paint on my 05 Mustang GT is perfect and still is in excellent condition. It has never seen a car wash except by me. No Michigan winters. My Fusion is another story a few problems on hood but it never been to the dealer it just keep running. 90k

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The paint on my 05 Mustang GT is perfect and still is in excellent condition. It has never seen a car wash except by me. No Michigan winters. My Fusion is another story a few problems on hood but it never been to the dealer it just keep running. 90k

May I ask what year is your fusion and what engine ,how you like the 6 speed transmission?

Thanks

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My fusion sel is 2006 I ordered it and got on Nov 16.2005. Not impressed with trans. no overdrive. 6 cyl

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I also run Mobil 1 5w-20 Im a firm believer of synthetic oil, never had any problems with motor or trans. I run the hell out of it. My go to work car.

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My fusion sel is 2006 I ordered it and got on Nov 16.2005. Not impressed with trans. no overdrive. 6 cyl

thanks for your reply the reason i asked because i ordered a transit connect and it has a 6 speed it should have a overdrive since it is a 2014 model.

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My fusion sel is 2006 I ordered it and got on Nov 16.2005. Not impressed with trans. no overdrive. 6 cyl

 

It most certainly does have an overdrive.

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It most certainly does have an overdrive.

Thanks.

Answered by mistake.

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I should of said no overdrive button.

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I should of have said no overdrive button.

 

FTFY. That was rumored to be a leftover from the CVT that was originally planned. L works in most situations though.

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The paint on my 05 Mustang GT is perfect and still is in excellent condition. It has never seen a car wash except by me. No Michigan winters. My Fusion is another story a few problems on hood but it never been to the dealer it just keep running. 90k

 

if this is the case, you are very lucky... my gut feeling though is if you open your hood and look along the underside edge it will be bubbly in areas...these areas inevitably blossom into strawberry textured paint blisters. My undriven 09 mustang (4.9 original miles/never even test driven/only been washed twice) sits inside undercover, it has them. my 06 hood went from the little bubbles at the underside lap to shot in 2 months, my wifes 07 had the little bubbles, were stable till last november, checked in january, its now all messed up underneath too.

look at the auto show pics from 2013 and 2014 i took... they are still shipping bubbled up/contaminated paint/misssealed hoods today. I'm a ford guy, honestly- but the paint shops are totally inept when it comes to prepping these hoods.

 

God help them on the 15 F150- if the same folks are doing the same prep quality theyve done the past decade on mustang hoods, they could kill ford.

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My 13 Focus has paint issues on the hood similar to what you describe. I love the car and paint color(Tuxedo Black) but absolutely hate the paint work on it.

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Zero excuses for the obvious & visible defect/s that leave the assy plant especially multiple times.

After working in different Ford facilities quality is either taken seriously or looked at as overhead and adding to indirect labor and not taken seriously ( at all).

 

I doubt those paint bubbled end items conform to the PSW book or master samples at launch. Its fixable IF someone really wants to.

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As for the Mustang hood bubbling....I had an accident in my 2006 GT about a year and a half after I got it, and had a new hood installed at a body shop and it still bubbled up, so its not an Assembly plant issue.

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