kyle Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Saw this article in Autoblog and was wondering what else everyone is hearing about upcoming introductions at the show? http://www.autoblog.com/2014/12/01/ford-shelby-gt350r-gt-f150-raptor-performance-brand-detroit-report/ While I love the idea of launching some high performance/niche models at the NAIAS ( I will always personally call it the Detroit auto show!) there is no volume from these products. Is anyone hearing about a small CUV or Taurus replacement? The Fusion must be in store for a mild update in 2016 as well (following Focus/Fiesta time schedule)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Well if this is to be believed...sounds like Ford might go crazy shit balls with performance introductions at Detriot: GT-350R New GT40 concept 999 performance line/brand http://jalopnik.com/is-ford-crazy-enough-to-show-a-ford-gt-replacement-in-d-1665292387 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I heard that there were some new GT40 concepts running around MI (mules) so it is quite possible they may show a concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 And I wonder when the gt500 will be shown.. I wonder if they will surprise us at Detroit or NY with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 (edited) I heard that there were some new GT40 concepts running around MI (mules) so it is quite possible they may show a concept. I saw something about a month ago near the Dearborn proving ground under heavy camo following what turned out to be a GT350 (it's pretty obvious in hindsight but I was traveling in the opposite direction and it hadnt been revealed yet) also under heavy camo. It was a similar wheelbase, maybe slightly longer and a little wider. The body was pretty low slung. I wish I could have gotten a better look and a pic or 2 but I was driving in the opposite direction. May have been a mule that came out of pilot Edited December 2, 2014 by fuzzymoomoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosetang Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Pouring all the performance models into one show sounds kinda crazy but also kinda cool, would be really interesting if that's the route they take. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fgts Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 All there's missing is a rwd sedan, once that's filled Ford's lineup is complete. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Pouring all the performance models into one show sounds kinda crazy but also kinda cool, would be really interesting if that's the route they take. It's good timing if they're introducing a new performance brand (please don't let it be 999). The timing is right for the GT350 and GT350R and Raptor since F150 and Mustang are new and LeMans 50th anniversary is next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Fuzzy55 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 That would be fun to go to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moosehead Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I want to see the RS. Been waiting for that car to hit stateside for a decade now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 The 50th anniversary of the GT-40's first run at LeMans was this year. The 50th anniversary of their first win won't be until 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 The 50th anniversary of the GT-40's first run at LeMans was this year. The 50th anniversary of their first win won't be until 2016. They must have been referencing the 50th anniversary of the first win in 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 All there's missing is a rwd sedan, once that's filled Ford's lineup is complete. You going to buy one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fgts Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 (edited) You going to buy one? Yep I might just like if im in the truck market i'll look at either an F150 or Silverado. I can't bring myself to buy what some random internet guy think I should buy. Edited December 3, 2014 by Fgts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I can't bring myself to buy what some random internet guy think I should buy. Show me one case where anybody on this site has told you what you should buy. Didn't happen. That's your problem - you can't separate your personal buying decisions with business decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fgts Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Show me one case where anybody on this site has told you what you should buy. Didn't happen. That's your problem - you can't separate your personal buying decisions with business decisions. So "business decisions" dictate my opinions? . But now since we talking rwd and performance what's so wrong with an v6, ST Fusion and another body style for Fusion? or a Falcon, Rancho,a cuv and a Lincoln built off the Mustang platform? . I know Ford have the talent, it's great that these performance vehicles are coming but I know Ford can do more at profit. I own an performance suv and a mid/large spot sedan, there's nothing Ford offers now that match what I have when it comes to trade-in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 So "business decisions" dictate my opinions? . No, but you seem to think your opinions and personal preferences should be dictating Ford's business decisions as to what vehicles to build and when. You say it's great that Cadillac is building a CTS-V coupe because you like it. We point out that if Cadillac continues to build those types of vehicles and ignores the more mainstream higher volume higher profit vehicles they'll lose money and either fold up shop or kill everything and start over. And if that happens you still don't get the vehicles you want. OTOH - if they build vehicles the smart way and make profit then they can build the vehicles you want and stay in business. That's what Ford is doing but you seem incapable of understanding that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Fuzzy55 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 If you don't mind me asking moosehead what is a RS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 If you don't mind me asking moosehead what is a RS? Focus RS. Its a super hot-hatch that they've sold in Europe near the end of the life cycle of the focus. Think ST but with more power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19Fuzzy55 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 oh cool. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 its rumored the new one will finally be available in NA will be AWD and feature the EB2.3 out of the mustang with about 350hp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I can't bring myself to buy what some random internet guy think I should buy. Yet you seem to think Ford should build what some random internet guy thinks they should build. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fgts Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 No, but you seem to think your opinions and personal preferences should be dictating Ford's business decisions as to what vehicles to build and when. You say it's great that Cadillac is building a CTS-V coupe because you like it. We point out that if Cadillac continues to build those types of vehicles and ignores the more mainstream higher volume higher profit vehicles they'll lose money and either fold up shop or kill everything and start over. And if that happens you still don't get the vehicles you want. OTOH - if they build vehicles the smart way and make profit then they can build the vehicles you want and stay in business. That's what Ford is doing but you seem incapable of understanding that. As I said multiple times as that can't get though your hard head is buyers may want and get the vehicle they want it's up to the manufacturer to figure that part out of making any vehicle at a profit. If the CTSV makes money for GM, great but no money, shame on them. I did mention on the November GM sales thread GM needs work on their mainstream mid and large car lineup as it's all over the place with not many sales. It's not like I don't understand but I will state my opinions about what Ford should have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 As I said multiple times as that can't get though your hard head is buyers may want and get the vehicle they want it's up to the manufacturer to figure that part out of making any vehicle at a profit. If the CTSV makes money for GM, great but no money, shame on them. You assume that every vehicle can be made and sold at a profit and that's just plain wrong. That type of thinking is what led to the G8, GTO, Solstice, Sky, XLR which were gigantic wastes of money for GM and should have never been built. That's why they were cancelled. It's ok to be excited as a consumer when someone builds something you like and at the same time be critical of the business decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 as a Fiesta St owner, its piqued my interest....haven't had this much fun with a car since my 88 5.0 with tweeks.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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