papilgee4evaeva Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 courtesy of Autoblog I don't have X-ray vision, but it doesn't appear that they're making drastic changes to the front fascia. Just a bit of modification here and there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 There is already a 2 page thread on this subject: http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/index.php?/topic/60801-diesel-f-150-for-2017/page-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Yeah I don't get why they made it sound like huge changes. Really seems like a new grille to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted March 30, 2016 Author Share Posted March 30, 2016 There is already a 2 page thread on this subject: http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/index.php?/topic/60801-diesel-f-150-for-2017/page-2 Spy shots are new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Yeah I don't get why they made it sound like huge changes. Really seems like a new grille to me Because that's what tabloidistic publications do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted March 30, 2016 Author Share Posted March 30, 2016 Because that's what tabloidistic publications do Pretty much. Plus, the fact that the truck has 5 (?) separate grille designs anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 I'm more curious about what diesel is under the hood, and where this particular truck would be built, DTP or KCAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 You know, reading the other article about electrification and hybridization, and it mentioned how Ford has confirmed a hybrid full size truck. I wonder if we'd even notice a hybrid F-150 testing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 You know, reading the other article about electrification and hybridization, and it mentioned how Ford has confirmed a hybrid full size truck. I wonder if we'd even notice a hybrid F-150 testing? Nope, likely not. Unless there was a video of it with no engine noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Hard to see anything but it does look like the bar across the center and the surrounding grille evokes the SuperDuty fascia, which would make sense. In any case, I'm sure they have a dozen grilles to update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 (edited) Just a thought but a diesel F150 may also have good export prospects for rest of the world markets. Ford's South American plant may be interested in it too... Thinking that a 3.0 diesel F150 would be considerably lighter than the current Ram 3.0 Ecodiesel and coupled with a 10-speed auto should get Ford out in front with best in class economy numbers... Edited March 30, 2016 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) Not many markets outside North America are interested in a pickup truck that cost as much as a luxury car (and takes up as much room). And the markets that can support F-150 business case (e.g. GCC, Venezuela) usually have really cheap subsidized gasoline thus negating the need for diesel. Edited March 31, 2016 by bzcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Not many markets outside North America are interested in a pickup truck that cost as much as a luxury car (and takes up as much room). And the markets that can support F-150 business case (e.g. GCC, Venezuela) usually have really cheap subsidized gasoline thus negating the need for diesel. The market would disagree with the huge success of the Wildtrak Ranger version in Asia and the pent up demand in Europe for higher Ranger Versions and even Peugeot and Mercedes launching a pickups for the rest of the world. Ford will be launching Limited version of the Ranger as well below the Wildtrak but above the XLT. ~25% of Ranger sales have been Wildtrak versions, and the Limited model has not launched there yet. The market for stripper cars world-wide in developed markets is slowly dwindling, with those buyers being steered toward used cars. I did notice one thing on the new Ranger when I was out of the country though. It uses DRUM rear brakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzcat Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) The market would disagree with the huge success of the Wildtrak Ranger version in Asia and the pent up demand in Europe for higher Ranger Versions and even Peugeot and Mercedes launching a pickups for the rest of the world. Ford will be launching Limited version of the Ranger as well below the Wildtrak but above the XLT. ~25% of Ranger sales have been Wildtrak versions, and the Limited model has not launched there yet. The market for stripper cars world-wide in developed markets is slowly dwindling, with those buyers being steered toward used cars. I did notice one thing on the new Ranger when I was out of the country though. It uses DRUM rear brakes. Huh? How does success of Ranger in Europe and Asia mean they want F-150? In fact, doesn't that fact contradict your point? They want a smaller truck that's not prices like a luxury car. Typical F-150 crew cab will cost over 50,000€ in Europe and is over 6 meters long, which means it is way too expensive and way too big in those places you mentioned. And that Mercedes pickup is not what you think it is. It's based on Nissan Navara and will be sold through Mercedes Commercial dealers in Europe. It's not a going to be a luxury vehicle. Edited March 31, 2016 by bzcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonj80 Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 The success of the high end Rangers show that they want luxury pickups, the Mercedes truck will offer both work as well as luxury versions. the high end Rangers are 60,000AUD and 35,000 £ before taxes. (That is about $50,000usd) That is BMW 5-Series costs. I agree that the F150 would be large for Europe however there is already a small and growing grey market for them they are a status symbol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan1 Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Can anyone state if the new front end will be a 2017 or a 2018 MY? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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