Fgts Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 http://www.autonews.com/article/20160718/OEM/160719863/54-5-mpg-target-is-off-the-table-u-s-regulators-say?X-IgnoreUserAgent=1 Its been set back to 50 mpg average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 IMO, this will help some manufacturers (GM, FCA) be caught off guard when fuel prices spike again since they will likely push back their fuel economy improvements now. Ford seems to be set pretty well with EB, and hopefully they continue that path. When gas hits $4+/gallon, trucks rated a few MPG better are going to be difference makers for buyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fgts Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) IMO, this will help some manufacturers (GM, FCA) be caught off guard when fuel prices spike again since they will likely push back their fuel economy improvements now. Ford seems to be set pretty well with EB, and hopefully they continue that path. When gas hits $4+/gallon, trucks rated a few MPG better are going to be difference makers for buyers.I doubt that, even now that they (GM/FCA) put out costly CUV/truck 54 mpg programs since 08'-11' they haven't recoup the cost yet. It's to late to cancel vehicle programs based on that standard. Probably some tweaks though. Edited July 19, 2016 by Fgts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I doubt that even now, they (GM/FCA) put out costly CUV/truck 54 mpg programs since 08'-11' that yet they recoup the cost. I think I'm gonna need some help translating this to English... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30 OTT 6 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 54 mpg is attainable, it's just not sell-able. Same goes with 50 mpg. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Fgts - personal attacks are not allowed. Post have been hidden. Consider this your only warning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 54 mpg is attainable, it's just not sell-able. Same goes with 50 mpg. Your actually not going to see 54 MPG....more like 35-40MPG real world...not the CAFE algebra ratings CAFE has been based on a standard first set in the 1970s and the actual real world ratings of it have been adjusted several times over the years. The Automakers only have to deal with the original ratings when it comes to fleet ratings. Lets also not forget that going from 15 to 30 MPG isn't the same as going from 30 to 45 MPG when it comes to saving fuel either. https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.cfm?id=17071 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fgts Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 Fgts - personal attacks are not allowed. Post have been hidden. Consider this your only warning. Gotcha... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I don't think GM will have as much of a problem if gas spikes as would Chrysler. Gm does have some really good fuel economy cars in the line up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 This was inevitable given the increasing mix of Trucks and Utes and the waning of cars sales. So no wonder replacing a $20K compact cars like Focus is down Ford's list of priorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfeg Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 From what I have seen, the standard has not been changed - if there will be a change it will be after the upcoming review. Also, much depends on the next president. A certain party generally does not care what the consumers want to buy, they want to be able to tell consumers what they are allowed yo buy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 This table shows the massive concessions given to larger vehicles while keeping the screws on smaller vehicles like B and C cars and Utilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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