Lwoodbluz Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 What rumors are going around your plant? KTP One day we are getting a new vehicle the next day they are cutting a shift sometime next year, Can't get the Union to say yes or no about any of that. 900 signed up for the August Buyout, 9 weeks total layoff weeks for each shift from August-December. Order bank 20,000 for rest of year, but looks good for the 08 in Jan. Who knows what's true and what's not. Anybody have anything to add. What's going around at the other plants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOD LOVES ME Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 What rumors are going around your plant? KTP One day we are getting a new vehicle the next day they are cutting a shift sometime next year, Can't get the Union to say yes or no about any of that. 900 signed up for the August Buyout, 9 weeks total layoff weeks for each shift from August-December. Order bank 20,000 for rest of year, but looks good for the 08 in Jan. Who knows what's true and what's not. Anybody have anything to add. What's going around at the other plants. rumor at MTP...we are going down to one shift in March, then losing both of our vehicles sometime in the future and becoming a warehouse for Wayne Assembly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnm Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 i heard a good one today- at the next contract we take an $8 an hour paycut, but get a $75000 check the first and second years of the contract no raises for rest of the contract. :blah: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrod Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 i heard a good one today- at the next contract we take an $8 an hour paycut, but get a $75000 check the first and second years of the contract no raises for rest of the contract. :blah: That is a good one!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FactoryWorker Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 i heard a good one today- at the next contract we take an $8 an hour paycut, but get a $75000 check the first and second years of the contract no raises for rest of the contract. :blah: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lwoodbluz Posted September 2, 2006 Author Share Posted September 2, 2006 i heard a good one today- at the next contract we take an $8 an hour paycut, but get a $75000 check the first and second years of the contract no raises for rest of the contract. :blah: That's a good one, Did you here wether the UAW voted it in?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 That's a good one, Did you here wether the UAW voted it in?? I'm sure it passed by at least 51%, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAP Realtor05 Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 LAP- Heard that Bill and Mark will be coming to LAP Sept. 18th to announce that LAP will not close but build a Fairline (sp??) and a Crown Vic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trimspert Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 i heard a good one today- at the next contract we take an $8 an hour paycut, but get a $75000 check the first and second years of the contract no raises for rest of the contract. :blah: You mean $75,000 each year? $150,000 total?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chkchka Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 You mean $75,000 each year? $150,000 total?! I've heard going to 4/10 shifts. That's about as bad as the rumors get at KCAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"Swami" Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 NAP - Rumor around here is NAP is idling, I for one, do not believe it !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gulik Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 LAP- Heard that Bill and Mark will be coming to LAP Sept. 18th to announce that LAP will not close but build a Fairline (sp??) and a Crown Vic. Don't know about that one cause we've been told up here at OAC that we have the fairlane already and they've started retooling a part of the plant for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butthead Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 Heard that Mark Fields is comming to Wixom Sept 22 and announcing that all plants outside of Mi will be consolidated in Wixom. The way they are srinking market share it could be done. Hell they can make anything there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67STANG Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 (edited) At CCP the rumor is a 5.00/hr. pay cut and 100,000 signing bonus at contract time. Supposedly the new contract is already being negotiated. I know we ratified a new operating agreement in hopes of securing new work. Which we have yet to be awarded. But, we have given up alot. And as things come up, the union tells us " oh that changed under the new agreement". So, nothing will surprise me when it happens. The union has nothing to bargain with anymore. Also, rumor is CCP is done in 2012. :titanic: Edited September 2, 2006 by 67STANG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktpgal Posted September 2, 2006 Share Posted September 2, 2006 That rumor makes absolutely no sense, therefore, it is possible. LOL.... If they are trying to cut heads, why offer money that will make you stay? :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrolling mill Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Big layoff coming to Woodhaven Stamping after they are done with the buyouts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trimspert Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 That rumor makes absolutely no sense, therefore, it is possible. LOL.... If they are trying to cut heads, why offer money that will make you stay? :rolleyes: That rumor has been circulating around KTP and LAP for months. With Ford, anything is possible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellcat_F6F Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 rumor at MTP...we are going down to one shift in March, then losing both of our vehicles sometime in the future and becoming a warehouse for Wayne Assembly Wow, I work at MTP, and I haven't heard that one..but then again, I actually do WORK there, and don't have time to walk around and pick up the latest bullshit rumors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCAP'er Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Rumors @ TCAP is that there are more rumors comming in the next 90 days or so, after that ... there will more rumors to come. Rumors also has it, is that a big huge rumor are also comming in September 11th, which will explained and make more sense to all the little rumors have been going around lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Economist Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 At CCP the rumor is a 5.00/hr. pay cut and 100,000 signing bonus at contract time. The math doesn't add up. Over a four year contract, working straight forty hours per week, that would equate to paying $100K to save $40K. If you're going to make up a rumor, make one where it seems feasible. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooshie Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 Heard next week there is to be an announcement at KCAP by the plant manager about the upcoming down time and the state of the company Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67STANG Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 The math doesn't add up. Over a four year contract, working straight forty hours per week, that would equate to paying $100K to save $40K. If you're going to make up a rumor, make one where it seems feasible. :P I'm just repeating a rumor :blah: :blah: :blah: . It's not one that I believe :shrug: The one I believe is that there are going to be a hell of alot more plant closing than we can believe possible. That announcement will come later in Sept.. And CCP is on that list :titanic: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 The math doesn't add up. Over a four year contract, working straight forty hours per week, that would equate to paying $100K to save $40K. If you're going to make up a rumor, make one where it seems feasible. :P but it does add up over 20 years of employment. but again, these are rumors and there are some real dipshits making crap up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WixomRealityCheck Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 There seems to be alot of similarities with regard to the plant meetings taking place. They explain the state of the plant, with GQRS, TGW's, etc,,,then they go on to say that Mark Fields and the crew will be coming to plant sometime in sept...."not to give false hope, but we need to show that we are the crown jewel of the company, and we are not done until the fat lady sings"...toying with peoples emotions, it is cruel. Its just not right. Our plant manager went on to say that Wixom, Atlanta and Norfolk are 3 of the best plants, and yet they are closing. He used that idea to insinuate that we might not close.(at least that was the perception of those clinging to the hope of staying at wixom until they retire) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadzee Posted September 3, 2006 Share Posted September 3, 2006 OK rumors in terms of what some or maybe just I may see coming down the line. The buyouts, if they are large enough, bleed off the young folks terrified they will hit the streets due to restructuring and be SOL when Gen is killed in 07. The buyouts then bleed off some of the "I was gonna retire anyway thanks for the $ Jr" Still more of the buyout take down the "I am too smart for this place/despise it here/want to be a cosmetologist...whatevers who qualify for the education buyout" Some of the buyouts knock off the slugs of the "I aint leaving here til I die crowd", because they think they may have to REALLY be part of the team and work and not have their lazy asses carried soon. Then comes the contract. Can you say BOHICA ? The UAW sells us and organised labor down the river with one big lick of the corporate nutsack. Tiered wages....they exist wake up and ask the folks at Deere. The terrified folks left will vote them in 95% to 5% not seeing their own ass reaming coming down the road. Health benefits. Bigger copays as well as pay per month fun. Retirees...pffft they will get the shaft too...after all they are only responsible for everything we have currently. Raises LOL PAH-LEEEZ. We will get a few shining sheckles in the form of some signing bonus, but that is it, and COLA will be siphoned off to more union bullshit and hairsplitting double talk programs...oh I know it will be used to supplement the "Come to Work" program. You know the one where we are going to have to entice the sluigs that do not come to work with some dumb-ass blanket or mug once a year to celebrate the fact they actually made it in. The only raise we may hear about during next contract is one for the Union elite. The last excuse I heard about them giving themselves a raise when they took ours away was about how they trimmed some fat and have more responsibilities.......DUH NO FU*&^%# SHIT. You mean like every friggin worker in every plant ? We ALL have more responsibilities and come this next round of work rule changes that will be even more significant. Note to Union Elite...Give yourselves a 6% pay CUT and take away the great double dip retirement fund so our local folks will not worry about pissing the regional folks off when they disagree with them. Can't be tipping the apple cart and rocking the boat when we might score a fat-ass double pension with our back breaking 5 yrs driving around from local to local having our asses kicked and dancing around pertinent questions...... Was this a rumor thread??? Sorry all, had lots of family over this weekend and the BOF was the easiest venting implement in sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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