mettech Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 ".....New Ford Boss Alan Mulally is happy to let it be known that he drives a Lexus LS 430, because after looking at all the options, he concluded “it’s the finest car in the world.†Tom Walsh of the Detroit Free Press says that Mulally...." “…knows Lexus cars are better than anything currently in Ford’s lineup, and he doesn’t care if Ford employees or the media hear him say it out loud.†Is this true? I can not belive he would still be in a Lexus. Does anyone know what he drives now?Ford news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 ".....New Ford Boss Alan Mulally is happy to let it be known that he drives a Lexus LS 430, because after looking at all the options, he concluded “it’s the finest car in the world.†Tom Walsh of the Detroit Free Press says that Mulally...." “…knows Lexus cars are better than anything currently in Ford’s lineup, and he doesn’t care if Ford employees or the media hear him say it out loud.†Is this true? I can not belive he would still be in a Lexus. Does anyone know what he drives now?Ford news No this is NOT currently true. It WAS true, as in "past tense" The same interview where he said he drove the Lexus, he also said he would be trading it in on a Ford product. But these anti-Ford sites and protesters seem to miss the second half of Mulally's statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLemon Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Does anyone know what he drives now? A Taurus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydro Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Hell, If I was him I'd go with an Aston Martin. No Jap car can hang with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Now that he is in the driver's seat so to speak, I hope Mr. Mulally will sample everything in the market from the Focus to the Jag XK as well as the competitive offerings from GM, DCX, Toyota, Nissan, BMW and Hyundai. Every senior manager and engineer should be assigned a competitor's vehicle for a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calypsocoral Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Now that he is in the driver's seat so to speak, I hope Mr. Mulally will sample everything in the market from the Focus to the Jag XK as well as the competitive offerings from GM, DCX, Toyota, Nissan, BMW and Hyundai. Every senior manager and engineer should be assigned a competitor's vehicle for a week. Right on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo_diesel_focus Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 (edited) Give it time and he will be driving a Lincoln MXS OR even better a new Jaguar S-Type Edited September 21, 2006 by turbo_diesel_focus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettech Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 The question remains..... What does he drive right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo_diesel_focus Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 I belive he gets shipped around in Lincoln Town Car to and from work. Cant seem to find out what car he personally drives, but its certainly a Ford Motor Co product MKZ, XJ, Navigator,S80, mUSTANG, 500, Rang Rover??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue II Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 The question remains..... What does he drive right now? Escape Hybrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torino70ragtop Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Right now he is driving a preproduction Edge. I have a friend that works in the lease car garage at World Headquarters and he told me that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanatWork Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 I don't blame him...I'm gonna be checking that monster out as soon as my preferred dealership gets one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLemon Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 I don't blame him...I'm gonna be checking that monster out as soon as my preferred dealership gets one. Otis Ford? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcsario Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 So what if he drove a Lexus? Ford could learn more than a thing or two from them. Right now he is driving a preproduction Edge. I have a friend that works in the lease car garage at World Headquarters and he told me that. I hope that isn't true. Worst thing he could do is judge Ford from such a shitty product like the Edge, he needs to raise the bar far higher than that. We need products that are far above the current mediocrity of Ford NA, worst thing that can happen is just fall into the "it's all right" mindset that has plagued every single product so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 "Worst thing he could do is judge Ford from such a shitty product like the Edge" Please refrain from puerile brain-farts like the above. Even the moronic should be able to grasp in their dim forebrains that driving the latest iteration of Ford's Haldex-derived platforms should be job one for the Mull, so he can experience such an important product first-hand. After all, that way, when his country-club buddies talk about 'em, the Mull will actually have an opinion with driving experience behind it, unlike your opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcsario Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 (edited) Err... sorry Edstock, I won't take back anything since the Edge could've been far better. Feel free to bookmark this thread and bump it once the new Murano, and the other new crossovers arrive, to see how weak Ford's job on the Edge really was. People like you were acting the same way about the Fusion, and in the end the thing's losing to even the friggin old Honda Accord. You can clearly see the Edge's design --like the Fusion-- inside or out, wasn't even refined as much as it should. Ditto for several other aspects. Take the Mustang and the F150 as examples of what I'm talking about; the surfacing of the sheetmetal, every line, every cut, every angle, the interior, etc. show a very impressive level of refinement that went into the design-to-production process. Hell, there were several articles about the level of obsession to detail that went into those projects. Edited September 21, 2006 by pcsario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 the (fill in the blank) could've been far better Say, isn't that the mating call of the Monday morning quarterback? Come back when you have something to contribute worth reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Well, at least he'll have driven one, and if the Murano and the rest are as wonderful as you expect, changes will be demanded. Meanwhile Nissan have their own problems in Nashville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemiman Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Hope they kept one of the last Lincoln LS's off the line. The finest sedan EVER built in NA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Err... sorry Edstock, I won't take back anything since the Edge could've been far better. Feel free to bookmark this thread and bump it once the new Murano, and the other new crossovers arrive, to see how weak Ford's job on the Edge really was. lets see how those $26,000 crossovers compare to the Ford Oh wait. They can't because the are $10 to $20K more expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanatWork Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 Err... sorry Edstock, I won't take back anything since the Edge could've been far better. Feel free to bookmark this thread and bump it once the new Murano, and the other new crossovers arrive, to see how weak Ford's job on the Edge really was. People like you were acting the same way about the Fusion, and in the end the thing's losing to even the friggin old Honda Accord. You can clearly see the Edge's design --like the Fusion-- inside or out, wasn't even refined as much as it should. Ditto for several other aspects. Take the Mustang and the F150 as examples of what I'm talking about; the surfacing of the sheetmetal, every line, every cut, every angle, the interior, etc. show a very impressive level of refinement that went into the design-to-production process. Hell, there were several articles about the level of obsession to detail that went into those projects. As the Edge was apparently scrutinized by an ex-Toyota quality specialist...pardon me for having optimism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcsario Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 (edited) Last time I checked, Ford's main competitors are Toyota or Honda, not Kia or Hyundai. That's the reason why the "value" arguement has never materialized in a turnaround for Ford's situation. Say, isn't that the mating call of the Monday morning quarterback? Come back when you have something to contribute worth reading. LOL... don't even gimme the cynical "worthless opinion" reply. According to you, people like me were... - Wrong on the 500 - Wrong on the Freestyle - Wrong on the Fusion - Wrong on the Focus (everything's always "good enough" for you) - etc etc etc. We're always "wrong" about products like those not being good enough, and yet you always seem to play dumb after the marketplace --and pretty much everyone else-- proves us right after all those "winners/killer apps" are/were released. So yeah, likewise, when you provide a contribution towards a real improvement of Ford's situation, one that is worth reading and doesn't read like a press release or damage control piece, come back at me Richard. The Edge lacks the refinement in execution it needs in order to truly make an impact in the marketplace - I judge all vehicles equally, and don't think the Edge will do as good as people are expecting, sorry. I'm confident your cheerleading of mediocrity will backfire once again here. We need to raise the bar, not lower it. Edited September 22, 2006 by pcsario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcsario Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 As the Edge was apparently scrutinized by an ex-Toyota quality specialist...pardon me for having optimism. The Edge is decent, but it's not something I would place as my flagship effort. He should've went with an F150; those are the kind of leaps Ford needs to be making on a constant basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewq4b Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 The Edge is decent, but it's not something I would place as my flagship effort. He should've went with an F150; those are the kind of leaps Ford needs to be making on a constant basis. If the Edge Class of vehicals become the next mini-vans or SUV's there is a good shot it could be the Flag Ship. Personally I think the the Edge will be solid seller but not a run away sucsess. Sort of like the Fusion solid seller but not a smash hit. The edge looks like all the other cross overs out there with nothing to really set it apart from the crowd to stand out and be recgonized. The Edge is Fords best effort yet in the main stream Auto segments. But I do not think they have the formula bang on yet. But are getting closer. That is just my opinion for what it is worth. Matthew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 (edited) The Edge lacks the refinement in execution it needs in order to truly make an impact in the marketplace What I'd like the rest of you to observe here is the lack of specificity in this statement: "lacks the refinement in execution" What is "refinement in execution", as it relates to the Edge? This is not a turn of phrase that is immediately intelligible. It does not transparently refer to any aspect of the vehicle in particular, such as the quality of the design, assembly, materials selection, powertrain, optional equipment, standard equipment, etc. Consider also the phrase: "truly make an impact in the marketplace" Again, what constitutes an "impact"? ---------------- The failure to say anything that can be measured renders any subsequent claim of accuracy hollow. Edited September 22, 2006 by RichardJensen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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