fuzzymoomoo Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 hour ago, FordBuyer said: Some want to go back to segregated schools. What are you talking about? Seattle, Portland, and many places up and down California are already trying that. None of which are Republican BTW.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizuce Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Agreed Fuzzy. That was one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever seen on a forum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfan Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 17 hours ago, FordBuyer said: I love that word "socialism". America has been a mixed economy since 1936. It has been a welfare since the 70's. Many conservatives want take away "social" freedoms such as gay marriage and abortion. Some want to go back to segregated schools. Some want to outlaw labor unions. We are all a bunch of hypocrites that yell socialism everytime we don't like something. And liberals do it everytime they yell racism everytime they are feeling anxiety. Perhaps "socialism" was the wrong word. However, what do you call it when some feel that me must buy electric cars whether we want them or not, and we must give up driving for robocars when we do not want them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Um, regulation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Footballfan said: However, what do you call it when some feel that me must buy electric cars whether we want them or not, and we must give up driving for robocars when we do not want them? Technological progress. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Footballfan said: Perhaps "socialism" was the wrong word. However, what do you call it when some feel that me must buy electric cars whether we want them or not, and we must give up driving for robocars when we do not want them? So exactly who is banning ICE at the moment? Maybe CA in 15 years as it slowly burns down to the ground. Not sure how BEVs will help when power companies in CA are turning off the grid on almost daily basis trying to stop out of control wildfires. People have to realize a national crisis calls for emergency responses. This nation is confronting many right now. A terrible virus, an attack on our election system from within and without, terrible flooding and wildfire events, and unequal justice system. These are not normal times; so don't expect normal responses. Right now, governors don't have much help from the fed's. States don't have a money printing press or access to the immense overall resources that the feds possess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfan Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 5 hours ago, sullynd said: Um, regulation? And who forms regulations? Clueless public servants bought and paid for by special interests that know what's best for everyone else by themselves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfan Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 4 hours ago, rperez817 said: Technological progress. Technology should be used to enhance mankind, not take away his/her freedoms. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Footballfan said: Technology should be used to enhance mankind, not take away his/her freedoms. Now that depends on whose "freedom" you are talking about. Black people are still losing their freedom in many subtle and not so subtle ways. Even are right to vote is underattack. As for technology, our privacy freedoms are under attack as companies monitor and monetize us. That is only going to get worse as we do everything through are smart phones. 1984 is here and we are like lobsters in rapidly boiling water. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfan Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 17 minutes ago, FordBuyer said: Now that depends on whose "freedom" you are talking about. Black people are still losing their freedom in many subtle and not so subtle ways. Even are right to vote is underattack. As for technology, our privacy freedoms are under attack as companies monitor and monetize us. That is only going to get worse as we do everything through are smart phones. 1984 is here and we are like lobsters in rapidly boiling water. You won't get any argument with me here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rperez817 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 6 hours ago, Footballfan said: Technology should be used to enhance mankind Yes sir. That's exactly what electric vehicles and autonomous vehicles can do. Expanding mobility for people while improving safety and reducing environmental impact. Both businesses that make these products and the governments that regulate them should work together to ensure they are deployed quickly and effectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfan Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 36 minutes ago, rperez817 said: Yes sir. That's exactly what electric vehicles and autonomous vehicles can do. Expanding mobility for people while improving safety and reducing environmental im Both businesses that make these products and the governments that regulate them should work together to ensure they are deployed quickly and effectively. Expanding mobility is one thing. Telling people they are not allowed to drive is another. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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