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16 minutes ago, AtlasBlue350 said:

I just received my window sticker recently and I noticed the MSRP had gone up $1,295, exactly what they stated in their notice effective December 8th. However, my F350 was order was signed and dated back in September so should be covered by the so called "Price Protection". So is this going to be a hassle between my dealer and myself once the truck is delivered? I've made no changes to the order since the original.

 

As posted above. Dealer Invoices and Window Stickers are generated with the prices in effect at the time the vehicle is produced. The price protection for retail orders is an accounting function between the dealership and Ford that adjusts the vehicle prices to those in effect on the original order date.

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Good information..  My Sept 20th order for a MY21 F150 was converted by Ford to MY22.  When the window sticker actually became available there was an increase of about $1,000.  This will be good to know in a couple of weeks when I do the paperwork at delivery.

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I ordered my F350back in June under XPlan pricing. When I got access to window sticker last week it shows what looks like coding for Retail pricing. I spoke to the dealership the next day and they told me I will still get XPlan. Question though is does is make a difference in price of the vehicle I will end up paying whether it comes in under XPlan pricing? Or if the dealer gives me the vehicle at XPlan pricing?  I'm retired, disabled military but work for a defense contractor that gets XPlan pricing. Looking at cost of the vehicle of what i expected compared to what reality will be once I get the vehicle in my possession. Dealership did not admit anything regarding invoice pricing, just guaranteed XPlan when I asked them last week. Thanks. 

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X plan is applied at the time of sale.  Has nothing to do with how the vehicle is built.  Every vehicle has x plan pricing on the invoice.  The difference in window stickers is whether it’s a retail (sold) order of dealer stock, neither of which matters as far as x plan.  You can buy a dealer stock vehicle using x plan.

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Thanks. I've used XPlan in the past with vehicles off a dealer lot, but had never ordered a vehicle before. THanks again.

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19 hours ago, yorid said:

ice-capades If I remove a item from my build will they be able to charge the $1295 since the order was changed?

 

The retail price protection still applies. 

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2 hours ago, ice-capades said:

The retail price protection still applies

 

Thank you

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Ice, I know you’ve answered the question of the retail price protection until you’re blue in the face - but I just want to get your advice on something. 
 

I ordered my F450 on November 5th before the $1295 price increase and my order was confirmed that day.  The standard price the dealership I ordered from charges for retail orders is Invoice + $450.  Today, December 17th, I asked the inventory manager to remove adaptive steering from my build.  The new order sheet he sent me to confirm the removal has the new higher base pricing making the net change +$295 after removing the $1,000 feature.  I mentioned to him what has been posted here about the price protection for retail orders placed before December 8th, but he genuinely didn’t have a clue about it. He told me they can lock in incentives but that pricing isn’t locked in until after the vehicle is built/invoiced, so he didn’t think the invoiced amount was price protected.  He said we would find out after the build occurred.  And mind you this is the inventory manager of a very large dealership out here. 

 

I saw you mention that Ford would provide Automatic Price Protection for retail orders placed before December 8th, but then you also said in another post “The Dealer files a price protection claim with Ford which is an internal accounting procedure and separate from your purchase agreement with the Dealer.

 

Now on to my question…  Will the pre-December 8th pricing automatically show up when the dealer is actually invoiced for my build (even though I made a change today by removing Adaptive Steering today)?  Or will they need to file a price protection claim?  I hope it’s not the latter because I honestly don’t think he knows how to do that.

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7 hours ago, manko said:

Ice, I know you’ve answered the question of the retail price protection until you’re blue in the face - but I just want to get your advice on something. 
 

I ordered my F450 on November 5th before the $1295 price increase and my order was confirmed that day.  The standard price the dealership I ordered from charges for retail orders is Invoice + $450.  Today, December 17th, I asked the inventory manager to remove adaptive steering from my build.  The new order sheet he sent me to confirm the removal has the new higher base pricing making the net change +$295 after removing the $1,000 feature.  I mentioned to him what has been posted here about the price protection for retail orders placed before December 8th, but he genuinely didn’t have a clue about it. He told me they can lock in incentives but that pricing isn’t locked in until after the vehicle is built/invoiced, so he didn’t think the invoiced amount was price protected.  He said we would find out after the build occurred.  And mind you this is the inventory manager of a very large dealership out here. 

 

I saw you mention that Ford would provide Automatic Price Protection for retail orders placed before December 8th, but then you also said in another post “The Dealer files a price protection claim with Ford which is an internal accounting procedure and separate from your purchase agreement with the Dealer.

 

Now on to my question…  Will the pre-December 8th pricing automatically show up when the dealer is actually invoiced for my build (even though I made a change today by removing Adaptive Steering today)?  Or will they need to file a price protection claim?  I hope it’s not the latter because I honestly don’t think he knows how to do that.

 

Great! Another clueless Dealer that doesn't know what they're doing!

 

The USOB (Unscheduled Order Bank) doesn't open at the beginning of year unless both complete vehicle specifications AND pricing is available. Retail orders receive automatic price protection for the prices in effect on the day the order was submitted and received by Ford. Dealer Invoices and Window Stickers are generated with the prices in effect at the time the vehicle is produced. The price protection for retail orders is an accounting function between the dealership and Ford that adjusts the vehicle prices to those in effect on the original order date.

 

The WBDO (Web Based Dealer Ordering) system will only display the prices in effect at the time the order specifications on the "Preview" screen are displayed.

 

When Ford announces retail pricing changes, the notice is posted on the main page of the FMCDealer.com portal. As I've posted in the corresponding forum (Ford Retail Price Increases), the notice always includes the information for the retail order price protection.

 

When vehicle specifications are changed, the Dealer simply adjusts the sales agreement and price based on the prices in effect on the original order date.  

 

As noted, the Dealer Invoice is created using the pricing in effect at the time the vehicle was produced. The retail order is price protected to the prices in effect on the original order date, but the Dealer has to file a price protection claim with Ford which is an internal accounting adjustment between the dealership and Ford. Ford does not generate either Window Stickers or Dealer Invoices using the prices in effect on the original order date. The retail order price protection only applies if the vehicle is delivered to the same customer that placed the order originally. The price protection process is handled by the dealership's main office staff, not an inventory or sales manager, using the original order documentation to support the claim. Your "Inventory Manager" should talk to the dealership's main office staff as the retail order price protection process has existed for decades! In addition, the price protection process does not delay vehicle delivery to the customer.

 

Hope this helps! 

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Mid-Year Pricing Effective December 27, 2021

 

EFFECTIVE DATE
Dealer Invoice changes will be effective December 27, 2021.
 

PRICE PROTECTION
2022 model units invoiced prior to December 27, 2021 will not be re-invoiced.
 

Automatic price protection will be provided on:
Firm 2022-model fleet, retail, and demonstrator orders signed and dated on or before December 26, 2021, and received by Ford Motor Company on or before December 30, 2021.
• Fleet CPA or GPC orders will continue to be price protected to the individual customer’s contract agreement or bid date.

 

RETAIL PRICE INCREASES BY VEHICLE LINE - Effective December 27, 2021
Trucks


F-150

  • Increase XL series prices $350 MSRP
  • Increase XLT series prices $880 MSRP
  • Increase Lariat series prices $880 MSRP
  • Increase King Ranch series prices $880 MSRP
  • Increase Platinum series prices $880 MSRP
  • Increase Limited series prices $880 MSRP
  • Increase Raptor series prices $880 MSRP
  • Increase Tremor series prices $880 MSRP
  • Increase 19S STX Appearance Package price $530 MSRP

Ranger

  • Increase all series prices $215 MSRP

Maverick

  • Increase XLT series prices $80 MSRP
  • Increase Lariat series prices $370 MSRP
  • Increase 43L Power Tilt / Slide Moon Roof price $200 MSRP
  • Increase 86B Ford Co-Pilot360TM price $110 MSRP
  • Increase 54P Lariat Luxury Package price $410 MSRP
  • Increase 54L XLT Luxury Package price $155 MSRP
  • Increase 54B XLT Luxury Package price $155 MSRP
  • Increase AHNAB Roadside Assistance Kit price $10 MSRP
  • Increase AHQAB First Aid Kit price $10 MSRP

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On 4/29/2021 at 10:08 PM, ttwn0324 said:

$600 base increase on the Super Duty line for 2022.   Option & destination pricing the same as 2021. So far.

I see you said base here. Does it change depending on the model you purchase or is this a flat rate?

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On 12/18/2021 at 8:08 AM, ice-capades said:

 

Great! Another clueless Dealer that doesn't know what they're doing!

 

The USOB (Unscheduled Order Bank) doesn't open at the beginning of year unless both complete vehicle specifications AND pricing is available. Retail orders receive automatic price protection for the prices in effect on the day the order was submitted and received by Ford. Dealer Invoices and Window Stickers are generated with the prices in effect at the time the vehicle is produced. The price protection for retail orders is an accounting function between the dealership and Ford that adjusts the vehicle prices to those in effect on the original order date.

 

The WBDO (Web Based Dealer Ordering) system will only display the prices in effect at the time the order specifications on the "Preview" screen are displayed.

 

When Ford announces retail pricing changes, the notice is posted on the main page of the FMCDealer.com portal. As I've posted in the corresponding forum (Ford Retail Price Increases), the notice always includes the information for the retail order price protection.

 

When vehicle specifications are changed, the Dealer simply adjusts the sales agreement and price based on the prices in effect on the original order date.  

 

As noted, the Dealer Invoice is created using the pricing in effect at the time the vehicle was produced. The retail order is price protected to the prices in effect on the original order date, but the Dealer has to file a price protection claim with Ford which is an internal accounting adjustment between the dealership and Ford. Ford does not generate either Window Stickers or Dealer Invoices using the prices in effect on the original order date. The retail order price protection only applies if the vehicle is delivered to the same customer that placed the order originally. The price protection process is handled by the dealership's main office staff, not an inventory or sales manager, using the original order documentation to support the claim. Your "Inventory Manager" should talk to the dealership's main office staff as the retail order price protection process has existed for decades! In addition, the price protection process does not delay vehicle delivery to the customer.

 

Hope this helps! 

This is GREAT information! Thanks for sharing. 

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