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Yes, that's the site I'm on, but it doesn't work, especially for the Black Label.  If you select a black label non LWB, it automatically selects option code 801A, which is for the L model.  It also does not allow you to select an interior theme unless you specifically pick the LWB model.

 

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Thw starting price is high, but with all the features standard, most competitors are more expensive feature for feature.  The exception is the infiniti qx80, mainly because the power 2nd row seats are standard on the qx80, and the self driving option is cheaper than the powered seat option for the nav reserve.  However, if you dnt add the enhanced 2nd row seats, the reserve is the best value.  No other suv in the class adds massaging front row seats and upgraded sound systems at less than 100k (not including destination). After you add some options (there's really only 24 in wheels, enhanced 2nd row, colors and tow), its more or less the same as the others.

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It appears that they have made some changes to the package codes, and it's confusing everyone.  Hopefully we can get the order guide soon to clear things up so I can get my order into the system.  Even the folks at the Lincoln Concierge were clueless, and told me to talk to my dealer.

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So I have my order placed.  The really odd thing about what they've done is that the "Atmospheric" theme on the BL is now option 801A, and is only available on the L model.  It also includes special wheels (which didn't sound impressive to me).  So since I didn't want the L, I had to forego that theme and go with one of the other 2.  Really bizarre.

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22 hours ago, Dlcorbett said:

Wtf, I thought that was just a glitch on the build and price.

 

It's bad enough that there's no led strips in the doors and console for the reserve trim.

I thought it was a glitch at first myself, as did my dealer.  When I asked the concierge, they were clueless.  Finally my dealer verified that it is, in fact, the case, and you can see it reflected in the order guide.  Makes no sense to me, but I guess it does to somebody.

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On 11/6/2024 at 4:14 PM, rickbolan said:

So I have my order placed.  The really odd thing about what they've done is that the "Atmospheric" theme on the BL is now option 801A, and is only available on the L model.  It also includes special wheels (which didn't sound impressive to me).  So since I didn't want the L, I had to forego that theme and go with one of the other 2.  Really bizarre.

 

It’s either they don’t have enough parts to outfit the standard navigators, and enough to sufficiently cover the L models, or another dumb decision by Ford. 

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13 hours ago, tbone said:

 

It’s either they don’t have enough parts to outfit the standard navigators, and enough to sufficiently cover the L models, or another dumb decision by Ford. 


It’s also possible the wheels caused CAFE issues so they did that to limit sales.

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A couple weeks ago I ordered a LWB Black Label with Atmospheric Package.

 

He told me Lincoln said to start expecting them to arrive dealerships between April and June and to be patient.

 

I ordered a Grand Wagoneer in the past.  It was built in July but I did not receive it until November.

 

I ordered an Escalade in the past during the COVID supply crisis.  I received the car two months after placing the order.  Maybe it was just right place at the right time and they chose to build my trim line first.  I ordered it the week before the new model year production started.

 

My experience with ordering is to understand there is no cut and dry information as to when you expect delivery.

 

 

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I love the 30 way seats in my 2019 Navigator. The 24 way loses the upper back adjustment, which I really like. You now have to go to the Black Label to get a 30 way driver's seat and 28 way passenger seat. There is no memory for the passenger's side. The seat controls are moved from the door to the seat bottom.

 

I believe there is no HUD because of the recessed dash.

 

I think I like the older center button controls over the new 11" touchscreen.  If it is like the Nautilus, Android Auto and Apple Carplay is only on the small lower screen.

 

Many of these impressions are based on driving the redesigned Nautilus.

 

All of these are negatives to me.

 

I do like the look of the big screen.

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5 hours ago, Andy L said:

I love the 30 way seats in my 2019 Navigator. The 24 way loses the upper back adjustment, which I really like. You now have to go to the Black Label to get a 30 way driver's seat and 28 way passenger seat. There is no memory for the passenger's side. The seat controls are moved from the door to the seat bottom.

 

I believe there is no HUD because of the recessed dash.

 

I think I like the older center button controls over the new 11" touchscreen.  If it is like the Nautilus, Android Auto and Apple Carplay is only on the small lower screen.

 

Many of these impressions are based on driving the redesigned Nautilus.

 

All of these are negatives to me.

 

I do like the look of the big screen.

 

Oh no I hope the nautilus and nav don't share seats.  The 20 nav i had were equipped with the 24 way seats and the shoulder rest was adjustable as well.  Doesn't make sense they have the same adjustment but removed it.

 

 

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17 hours ago, Dlcorbett said:

 

Oh no I hope the nautilus and nav don't share seats.  The 20 nav i had were equipped with the 24 way seats and the shoulder rest was adjustable as well.  Doesn't make sense they have the same adjustment but removed it.

 

 

You may be correct. I have not seen a 2025 Navigator. The nautilus seat was comfortable, but I like the upper back adjustment. This is something Lincoln has that is unique.

 

Does anyone know the adjustments on the 24 way Navigator seats in older models? I have only seen the standard and 30 way seats.

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7 hours ago, Andy L said:

 

 

Does anyone know the adjustments on the 24 way Navigator seats in older models? I have only seen the standard and 30 way seats.

 

 

Iirc, it adjusted the following way:

 

Independent Thigh - 1 - 4

Seat fwd/back - 5-6

Seat front tilt - 7-8

Seat up/dwn - 9-10

Seat rear tilt - 11-12

Seat reclines- 13 -14

Shoulder- 15 - 16

Head rest-17 -20

Lumbar Bolster-21-22

 

Can't remember the last 2 adjustment.  The 30 way i think adds the top Lumbar bolster and massage functions

 

 

 

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