DCK Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 (edited) http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/20...8_cadillac_cts/ When I post the pictures they simply come up as Red X's so just click the link UPDATE: VIDEO OF IT NOW ON EDMUNDS http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Featu...photopanel..2.* Edited January 8, 2007 by DCK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcsario Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 (edited) GM tried pretty hard with those pics, it looks terrible in them, like an oversized BLS. Interior looks good, reminds me of the Sebring for some reason. Other than the gauges (don't fit the overall theme) it's a nice effort I guess. Edit: Yeah, looks better in that edmunds link. Edited January 8, 2007 by pcsario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VetteZ06 Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 The vehicle pictured in the Automobile Magazine link is a base model, for whatever reason. *shrug* Standard 258-horsepower V-6, optional 300-horsepower V-6. Sweet! Looks great, Cadillac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarBear Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Looks good- me likey. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnFan Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 LOL @ facelift. and GMIers were laughing at the 500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadBflo Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 I can see all the differences. But overall it doesn't look much different, just a little cleaner. A design theme is nice, but I find all the Cadillacs to look a little too similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Reynolds Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Those angles are W-R-O-N-G! As blocky as the CTS is there should have been more straight on shots of the car, because it really does not work well with the huge grille the CTS sports. The interior is a bit of a disappointment though. I expected GM to go all out, and they stumbled a bit. 100x's better than what we have now, but nothing that shold cause the folks at Audi/BMW to sweat. Awesome engine choices. Lincoln could use a vehicle like this (well more like the IS), adding more refinement to the MKZ over the years would allow the fitment of a smaller RWD 4 door sports car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wescoent Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 I don't know. It doesn't particularly set my world on fire. Looks like a very logical update of the current CTS, with a much-improved interior. The engines are a nice feature of the car, and the CTS-V will be absolutely insane once it debuts. It just seemed like a very hyped car, that turned out to be a nice, but not game-changing update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCK Posted January 8, 2007 Author Share Posted January 8, 2007 Comparison: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Stunningly ugly IMO I don't like it..the front end is too busy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildosvt Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 And people bitch about the Explorer and Expe! Piece of shit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSOLVER Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 (edited) CTS has been a real winner for Caddy and GM. It brings in a LOT of buyers who would never have thought to look at a domestic at this price point and many are very happy with the content/price relationship, more so than the entry level Acura's and Lexus they have come from. And if you have not driven a V series , you have missed a big demarcation in domestic luxury. Although it is a digital type of car(SVT was much more analogue), it is a complete package and this update was very focused on returning and expanding the current CTS customer. There is really only one real competitor to this, and it is the Infinity. Big sales here, and Ford and DCx have nothing to fight with. Still. For some time to come if ever. Caddy is leading GM's turnaround, as it should as the premium brand. By the time Ford figures it out with Lincoln, the fight will be over as the Lexus and Acura take their positions in this market. If I decide my new Cayman is to much for every day, the V is on my short list again. Especially as there is a rumoured forced induction system out there.... Guilt free luxury(and performance!) indeed. Any guilt is placed squarely in Dearborn on product failing, er planning. Short term solution for Ford? There isn't one. Edited January 8, 2007 by JETSOLVER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCK Posted January 8, 2007 Author Share Posted January 8, 2007 I have to admit, When I posted this thread it was pretty clear it would be bashed here. This place is far worst than Toyota Nation. Styling is subjective if you don't like it no prob. But to the fools who compare it to the Ford SUV redesigns and the 500 refresh.............I mean who are you kidding, your nothing but a biased fool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VetteZ06 Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 LOL @ facelift. and GMIers were laughing at the 500. That's because the Five Hundred is a minor facelift. Anybody with two eyes and a functioning brain should be able to see that this is much more than a facelift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 That's because the Five Hundred is a minor facelift. Anybody with two eyes and a functioning brain should be able to see that this is much more than a facelift. Not a very nice one to boot, I perfer the outgoing CTS to this overstyled POS Also I'm not keen on the new 500 front end, the Focus is a huge improvement over what it was overall, but the styling could be better, but I like it from what I saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_fairmont_wagon Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Nice improvements over the original one. The powertrain updates are welcome as well. This now competes with the Base M35 and the G35 on my midlife crisis shopping list. If I can justify the up-spec 3.6L and auto combo, it may just edge out the Infiniti's on being domestic alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detroitmuscle Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 WOW!! Are you guys serious? This car is HOTT! Ordering mine in black! You can hate all you want, 300plus ( I say plus cause just like the Lambadas this is under rated it will be around 315hp when it comes out) DI, v6, AWD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Wow. I had almost forgotten how craptastic the previous CTS interior was. The interior improvements alone should go a long way on selling more of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchdevil Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 That Cadillac is a mix of somethings better and some things worse. To me it's still not a pleasingly balanced design that makes me feel like it's beautiful... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcsario Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 (edited) I have to admit, When I posted this thread it was pretty clear it would be bashed here. This place is far worst than Toyota Nation. Styling is subjective if you don't like it no prob. But to the fools who compare it to the Ford SUV redesigns and the 500 refresh.............I mean who are you kidding, your nothing but a biased fool. I agree. Write "overstyled POS" in the new Focus topic and watch the reactions. BUBUBU WYH TEH NEGATIVITY???? DONT U HAV ANYTIHGN GOOD 2 SAY??? Hilarious double standards from silvrsvt and Co. They like to dish it, but can't take it. No more complaning now. Edited January 8, 2007 by pcsario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcsario Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 (edited) Wow. I had almost forgotten how craptastic the previous CTS interior was. The interior improvements alone should go a long way on selling more of these. Agreed, other than the engine, the interior is possibly the most important aspect of any car to close the sale. They both did a decent job. Edited January 8, 2007 by pcsario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 They both did a pretty good job. You just HAD to drag a Chrysler interior into an otherwise Chrysler-free thread didn't you? Here comes the whining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchdevil Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 CTS has been a real winner for Caddy and GM. It brings in a LOT of buyers who would never have thought to look at a domestic at this price point and many are very happy with the content/price relationship, more so than the entry level Acura's and Lexus they have come from. Short term solution for Ford? There isn't one. I think to some extent the Zephyr/MKZ is doing the same thing for Lincoln. I don't think it is as much about having the highest performance and content but the affordable luxury image bling factor. The MKZ looks like it could be a RWD V8 powered luxury sedan but it doesn't perform like one. Also, people buying companion vehicles who like their Navigators. If Cadillac was pumping out a FWD CTS based on a Malibu/Aura/G6 and selling it at a lower price or selling the BLS here in the US, they would probably sell more or as many as a CTS and CTS sales would probably tank. I think all that matters to its buyers is that it is a Cadillac and is a sedan companion to the Escalade. The STS is invisible and the DTS is for the same casket riding people who buy the Grand Marquis and Town Car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kotzenjunge Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 That steering wheel looks... off for some reason. It looks eminently better in the most recently posted pictures with a black center, but it throws off the whole interior for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Wow the new CTS looks amazing. I absolutely hate the exterior/interior of the current generation CTS, but this car looks sooo much better. I can't wait to see what happens to the STS. I think we have to see that comparison again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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