range Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 (edited) Wall Street Journal Link It looks like GM is back to overproducing vehicles and then being forced to offer big discounts to move them. Based on the big backlog of unsold trucks, I think GM badly misjudged the popularity of their new trucks. "The supply of the Silverado and Sierra sits at 101 days and 129 days, respectively, far more than top competitors in the large-pickup class, according to Autodata. Ford Motor Co. has a 75-day supply of F-Series trucks, while DaimlerChrysler AG's Chrysler Group carries a 73-day supply of the Dodge Ram." Edited May 9, 2007 by range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLaudioF150 Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Wall Street Journal Link It looks like GM is back to overproducing vehicles and then being forced to offer big discounts to move them. Based on the big backlog of unsold trucks, I think GM badly misjudged the popularity of their new trucks. "The supply of the Silverado and Sierra sits at 101 days and 129 days, respectively, far more than top competitors in the large-pickup class, according to Autodata. Ford Motor Co. has a 75-day supply of F-Series trucks, while DaimlerChrysler AG's Chrysler Group carries a 73-day supply of the Dodge Ram." Surplus of unwanted Silverado and Sierra classics maybe? Sad to say I've seen more new Tundras than these twins here in Houston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armadamaster Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Surplus of unwanted Silverado and Sierra classics maybe? Sad to say I've seen more new Tundras than these twins here in Houston. I see more new Dodge and Ford trucks on this side of Houston. Sure as hell NO new Tundras, assload of Tacomas though. Could be the fact that the new GM trucks are decontented Dodge and Ford ripoffs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 (edited) I see more new Dodge and Ford trucks on this side of Houston. Sure as hell NO new Tundras, assload of Tacomas though. Could be the fact that the new GM trucks are decontented Dodge and Ford ripoffs? It must be concerning to GM that a couple of their staple trucks are in slow down. The Tundras are still pretty small in numbers annually (14,400), so until they build sales volume there won't be much uniformity to distribution. Maybe they could bring out a Lexus version for the Wall Street croud, Edited May 9, 2007 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLaudioF150 Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 I see more new Dodge and Ford trucks on this side of Houston. Sure as hell NO new Tundras, assload of Tacomas though. Could be the fact that the new GM trucks are decontented Dodge and Ford ripoffs? To this I'll add the fact that I live in Sugar Land. Lots of orientals here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 I've seen one new Tundra out on the road but then again I have yet to see a new 08 Super Duty either... At least it looks like Ford is being smart but cutting back on the plants building the F-150 to keep with demand. Gas prices are going to be a bitch with no relief in sight any time soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White99GT Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 (edited) I've seen one new Tundra out on the road but then again I have yet to see a new 08 Super Duty either... At least it looks like Ford is being smart but cutting back on the plants building the F-150 to keep with demand. Gas prices are going to be a bitch with no relief in sight any time soon! Then all of the new Tundras must be selling in my area. I see at least 4 or 5 different ones a day, I've been shocked by the number of new Tundras I've seen on the road. Almost as many new Tundras as GMT-900s. Of course, I see alot of '08 SDs also. Not so many new HD GMs though. Edited May 9, 2007 by White99GT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoss96racing Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 i have seen one new tundra on the road... '08 super duty's here and there and I have been seeing gmt900's the most in SE michigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGallun Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 hahahahaha, stupid GM... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonPerson Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 The Numbers in Spring TX and The Woodlands. In the last 90 days I have seen about 50 new (different) Super Dutys, most are KingRanch Loaded of course. In the last 60 days I have seen about 150-200 New GM half tons In the last 30 days I have seen about 200 or a little more Tundras In the last 30 days I have seen "one" new Duramax. My understanding, is there is about a 30-45 day backlog of CrewMax orders, which Toyota is reported to now be shifting to 90% of their production to try to meet the demand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconman13 Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 How do you know you arent seeing the same 20 Tundras, 10 times each? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonPerson Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 How do you know you arent seeing the same 20 Tundras, 10 times each? Different colors, different body styles, different drivers. So far it is mainly just Reg Cab and Double cab..........the CrewMax is just now hitting the streets in large numbers. I am fixin to make a short trip from Spring to The Woodlands and back - about 10 miles round trip. Typically, on that short trip I will see about 5-8 Tundras and 1 new Super Duty (sometimes -0- Super Duty). Since Duramax is now available, I expect to see those numbers to increase a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconman13 Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Still, 200? Come on, there arent 200 different color/model combinations. The only way I could see 20 let alone 200 new Tundras is if I drove by the dealership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one2gamble Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 (edited) Then all of the new Tundras must be selling in my area. I see at least 4 or 5 different ones a day, I've been shocked by the number of new Tundras I've seen on the road. Almost as many new Tundras as GMT-900s. Of course, I see alot of '08 SDs also. Not so many new HD GMs though. Ive seen a total of two tundras in central cali, one black one and one silver one. And the local toy dealer has something like 4K off the top of them Edited May 9, 2007 by one2gamble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconman13 Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Its just hard to understand how there could be more Tundras than GM's in half the time frame. Look at the numbers, Chevy has outsold the Tundra almost 5 to 1. Add in the GMC twin, and you get like 6 to 1. and yet, there are 2 X as many Toyotas as GM's in your area? Ford F-Series 228,343 YTD Chevrolet Silverado 202,151 YTD Dodge Ram 122,816 GMC Sierra 64,639 YTD Toyota Tundra 43,386 YTD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLaudioF150 Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Its just hard to understand how there could be more Tundras than GM's in half the time frame. Look at the numbers, Chevy has outsold the Tundra almost 5 to 1. Add in the GMC twin, and you get like 6 to 1. and yet, there are 2 X as many Toyotas as GM's in your area? Ford F-Series 228,343 YTD Chevrolet Silverado 202,151 YTD Dodge Ram 122,816 GMC Sierra 64,639 YTD Toyota Tundra 43,386 YTD Maybe it's because the Toyota Tundra sticks out like a sore thumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonPerson Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 Just finished todays little 10 mile run. 3 new Super Dutys 3 new Tundra 6 new GM all CrewCab half ton There are several markets within Houston, Dallas, Austin, and San Antonio, that do not reflect the current YTD national figures. But about 75% of the driving population is in Trucks.......either work or heavy sport/RV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White99GT Posted May 9, 2007 Share Posted May 9, 2007 HoustonPeterson, looks like the sales mix is pretty similar in your area. Of course I'm from a southern gulf state as well. Toyota has definitely picked up alot with the new Tundra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford-150 Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 i have to say that i do see more new tundras than the new twins, maybe it is because, even how ugly the tundra is, the silverado is even more ugly with its bulging fenders, now the sierra, that is a nice looking truck, but some chevy faithful are funny cause for some reason they say GMC is POS, are they just stupid, correct me if im wrong, but isn't the chevy silverado and the GMC sierra virtually the same other than body panels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarBear Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Its just hard to understand how there could be more Tundras than GM's in half the time frame. Look at the numbers, Chevy has outsold the Tundra almost 5 to 1. Add in the GMC twin, and you get like 6 to 1. and yet, there are 2 X as many Toyotas as GM's in your area? Ford F-Series 228,343 YTD Chevrolet Silverado 202,151 YTD Dodge Ram 122,816 GMC Sierra 64,639 YTD Toyota Tundra 43,386 YTD Those sales numbers speak for themselves. GM has been pretty stingy with rebate money so far- up until very recently only $1000 on new style Silverados. Fuel prices are concerning me- talking to local dealers, $3.40/gal is starting to hurt sales. Local 'Yota dealer down the street has over 75 new Tundra's in stock, with bigger incentives than Chevy (now there's a switch). FWIW, Oregon has the second highest truck per capita population behind Texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarShark Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 No offense to anyone here, but I don't really see how this "I've seen x Tundras near me" or "There are y Silverados on the lot near my house" business is indicative of anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 FWIW, Oregon has the second highest truck per capita population behind Texas. What?? Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarBear Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 What?? Why? Damned good question as to why- but the stat doesn't surprise me at all. Once you leave the Metro Portland area, the roadways are wall-to-wall pickups. most of them full-sized, most of them Ford (yes, the Northwest is traditonally Ford-dominated in this segment). Of course, once you leave the Portland area, the state is predominantly agricultural, with a fair share of cattle and sheep thrown in for good measure. That's the practical answer. The other answer is "lifestyle statement." The truth falls somewhere in between. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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