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Ford Creating Families Around Mustang, Bronco
jpd80 replied to silvrsvt's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Correct, the Evos concept heralded most of the modern post Kinetic styling traits found in Mustang and Euro based Fords. It's an ideal starting point for developing a "Mustang-like" vehicle, it's the right size, right styling and different enough to not impinge on S550 Mustang sales. I think that so long as the style and temprament of the vehicle is aligned with Mustang then, all will be OK...more appropriate than the lazy ass sacrilege of Mustang face on a FWD Escape/ Focus Active. -
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New light & medium duty news
jpd80 replied to Joe771476's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Hino = Heavy duty Toyota, they have good name internationally as reliable trucks. Penske Truck Leasing is in all effect Hino's dealer network hiding in plain sight, don't know if it's an exclusive deal but Penske should move to make sure it remains that way... -
New light & medium duty news
Bob Rosadini replied to Joe771476's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
JP, No hard proof but I was told by someone who is often quoted in a lot of the fleet rags that Roger P has had something to do with the Hino distribution network. Not surprising that he has 20,000 of them in service. Then again I have never heard anyone with direct experience have anything bad to say. Again, as they are currently diesel only, the 7.3 should do a lot to give Ford at least one edge over Hino. -
It's to Ford credit that they were able to take a step back and really ask what the customer really wants /needs rather than just dumping something like a 7.0 litre version of the 6.2 on them - that would have been a huge temptation. Ford needed more capacity to get away from 12.7:1 rich mixtures that are normal deep in a loaded throttle, it limits peak power and torque away from what everyone expected (500 HP / 520 lb ft) but commercial customers will love Ford for resisting that in favor of fuel efficiency. Big water pump, lots of cooling, good oil system, ample bearing area...
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New Ford 7.0 L....?
Bob Rosadini replied to caseyhollema's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Well once again from Mr. Beltramo, Chief 7.3 design engineer. In so many words, "Low RPM, High torque truck engine". I guess at some point people will accept it for what it is meant to be. Can't get here soon enough-in particular for 650/750. -
For my first post on Blue Oval Forums I'm going to come in here and flog/punch/kick the dead horse some more. I agree with the comment that more all-electric range would have been nice. First off, I currently drive a Volvo S90 T8 (sedan version of the XC90 T8), which is a PHEV. The most satisfying part of the drive by far is when it's gliding in all electric mode. Unfortunately, between the fact that I need to gingerly accelerate to keep it in pure electric, and the roughly 20 mile range, I don't get to make use of all electric nearly as much as I'd like. 0-60 in that boat is still sub 5 seconds for the same reasons the GT will be quick - that electric motor torque is solid and instant. However, as much as it's nice having that performance on tap, day-to-day the gliding of all-electric driving is something I get joy from for far more of my seat-time. I can imagine that the GT could be the same...great to have the performance, but the gliding (which I think is a term Lincoln uses iirc) is something extra special when all-electric. FWIW I currently have a deposit on the Rivian R1S - https://rivian.com/r1s/. While they position it as an "adventure vehicle", and it has nowhere near the luxury of the GT, to me the combination of utility, power, range, 3 rows, and minimalist cabin may ultimately be the ticket. I'm primarily worried the first batch of R1S's, which should be coming out right as my S90 T8 is up, will be WELL north of the $72k starting price. Then there's the fact it's a lot of money for a car from a new untested company. Forgetting about price, my perfect car would be the electric drivetrain of the Rivian with the luxury of the Aviator. I'm happy Ford dropped $500MM into Rivian earlier this year because that tells me we'll eventually see something close to that. BTW, I sat in a Black Label earlier this week and it is so incredibly nice - I envy anyone who ends up with one. Unfortunately we need a 2nd row bench, so a black label GT isn't in the cards for us.
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Even the head engineer on the project said that they thought of doing that but that it wouldn't give the benefit expected and the more they looked at it, the more they realized that the maximum speed they were looking at was about 4,000 rpm and an OHC design wouldn't really be an advantage, especially all that extra width at the top of the engine. The other side to this was looking all commercial engines that would use it, the slimmer profile of the OHV pushrod design won out. Back when the original "Hurricane/Boss" 5.8 /6.2 /7.0 the brass pushed hard for a simpler pushrod engine but the engineers pressed hard for the merits of the OHC design but couldn't get cylinder deactivaton to work.
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Pin weight (5TH wheel) of your RV is 15% (or 20% to be safe) max (loaded) GVW of your RV...leveling kit does nothing for payload and dont ever fall into any bullshit and believe it does..a class V conventional hitch tongue weight is 10% to 12% of the max GVW of any trailer or RV...Class V hitch max tongue weight is 1800lbs...no idea your setup...but generally anything you are pulling over 18,000 GVW puts you into DRW...I bet your F250 is now at max or over rated payload...dog, kids, coolers, beer, soda girlfriend/wife all must be added into payload...if you running 5th wheel thats already in truck bed that weight has to be included as well into payload...payload sticker on door..that you need to find and go from therd Also, GCWR of your f250 should never be exceeded, again nobody has any idea of your setup and weights..no idea on what f250 you have either (diesel, gasser, cab config and so on)
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2020 Super Duty Chassis Cab Order Guide
ice-capades replied to ice-capades's topic in F-Series SuperDuty Forum
2020 Super Duty Order Guide has been updated as of today and is available for download. LATEST ORDER GUIDE UPDATES Added: New Tires THB and THC Updated: Heated/Cooled to Heated/Ventilated Added: Note in optional tire section -
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Production Week Scheduling Timetable
ice-capades replied to ice-capades's topic in Production and Sales
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Ford Mustang-Inspired SUV Preview Scheduled For November
ehaase replied to silvrsvt's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
255 was available 1980 through 1982. 302 returned to Mustang for 1982 model year. I remember the Motor Trend cover - "The Boss is Back." 157 hp with 2bbl, 4 bbl came in 1983 with 175 hp, later increased to 205 or 210, then 225 with port fuel injection. -
FWIW, I heard it was a 6.2L derivative.
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Ford Mondeo Evos Trademark Has Us Scratching Our Heads
02MustangGT replied to silvrsvt's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Or Ford could choose a design direction that isn’t ripped from an 8 year old concept. -
Ford Mondeo Evos Trademark Has Us Scratching Our Heads
Dequindre replied to silvrsvt's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Positive equity is better than no equity. Ford could have chosen a completely new name that they never used before. -
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Mach e prototype on the streets
jpd80 replied to blwnsmoke's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Not to hammer on about this but Imagine a "Tesla 3" that looks like a Mustang but can be built in a c2 production body / paint shop and assembly line, marriage and final trim. -
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Already being shoehorned into a Foxbody. Fit's pretty easily. Plenty of room for the exhaust manifolds. Would need a small cowl hood to clear the front mount throttle body though. Hopefully Ford sell this as a crate motor with control pack.
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New light & medium duty news
jpd80 replied to Joe771476's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Hino takes another big step. With a new plant, those modest sales/leasing numbers will climb for sure, it's a real mark of confidence to fund long term infrastructure and manufacturing facilities. I bet Penske has been instrumental in showing Hino just how many potential customers are out there. -
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New Ford 7.0 L....?
edselford replied to caseyhollema's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
To 7 Mary 3 mary interesting picture. When it first came out, l thought it was a 7 liter version of the 6.2 SOC ford V8. I think that is actually wrong! It may have been a phase I prototype of the now new 7.3 V8. Narrow valve covers and in some discussion the bore was at 4.220” same as the 7.3 Also, if you take a picture with a wide angle lens, say a 25 or 30 mm, things seem to extend farther than they should. (Valve covers) edselford -
Ford Mustang-Inspired SUV Preview Scheduled For November
jpd80 replied to silvrsvt's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
The 255 Small block was rated between 115 and 122 Hp, wouldn't blow the hat off your head. -
Mach e prototype on the streets
jpd80 replied to blwnsmoke's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Model E has electric motor in front and back, without tall ICE and radiator in front of wheels, the whole look of the car changes. Respectfully, you're incorrect with a lot of your presumption. There were two projects, the initial compact BEV started well before the two Mid sized crossovers. Model uses a skateboard set up with battery under floot and motors front and back, it was run under C2 project to get top hat, steering and suspension modules and put the whole thing under a project that could help amortize costs. Bolt began as an extension of Gamma and part way through, GM realised that it needed to change those parts as well so yeah, no parts in common from Gamma yet retains a G2 prefix to the platform code. -
New light & medium duty news
Bob Rosadini replied to Joe771476's topic in Ford Motor Company Discussion Forum
Hino news Just one day after Hino Trucks held the grand opening of its new manufacturing facility in Mineral Wells, W.Va., it celebrated another milestone – the 20,000th truck delivery to Penske Truck Leasing (PTL). In a ceremony held at the plant to commemorate the delivery, members of Hino Trucks, including President and CEO Shigehiro Matsuoka were on hand as Hino Motors Ltd chairman Yoshio Shimo presented the key to the 20,000th truck to Roger Penske. “Hino is an important supplier of trucks to our leasing and rental business”, said Penske Truck leasing Chairman Roger Penske. “I am honored to accept delivery of the 20,000th truck produced by Hino in the United States on behalf of Penske Truck Leasing and would like to congratulate the entire team at Hino on the achievement of this significant milestone.” The 20,000th truck is a 2020 model 268A a part of Hino’s line-up of Class 6 & Class 7 conventional trucks that have garnered an industry reputation for providing the lowest cost of ownership in its class. Hino’s 268 model is specifically well suited for the lease and rental market segment where Hino has grown to 10% of the market. The 20,000th truck will be a part of Penske Truck Leasing’s commercial rental fleet. “This has been a landmark week in the history of Hino Trucks. We have officially opened the doors of our new 1 million sq ft manufacturing plant, and are commemorating a milestone delivery to our longstanding partner Penske Truck Leasing. They continue to guide and support our growth in North America and we look forward to continuing to provide them with best in class trucks,” said Matsuoka. -
Expedition MAX vs Navigator L - Worth the $?
Expy Aladocious replied to Expy Aladocious's topic in Lincoln Navigator Forum
Thanks for the replies, we are looking at a gently used option if we can find one. Looking for tow+tech - the tow package being the slightly more rare option. First pick would be the 2nd row bench, followed by passthrough, and least popular now is the console. I like the idea of being able to put some plywood in the back when I don't want to pull the utility trailer. If I could pull out the console and replace it with a truck fridge/freezer unit that were as high as the folded seat backs, that might be interesting. -
They used to be cooled (using a peltier device) but when they redesigned the system on some of the new models like the 2016 Edge/MKX and 2015 F150 they had a design flaw. Subsequently they started calling them "ventilated" instead of "cooled" because they couldn't get the cooling to work properly. I don't know if they stopped using the Peltier device or just changed the name. The fact is the new design did not work as designed - there were TSBs and repair procedures that helped a little but never fixed the problem.
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There's a difference between "Ventilated" Seats, and "A/C" Seats, not all systems are the same.
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I think this is a very well written and fair-sounding review. Fuel Economy section gave me info I couldn't get from other reviews yet https://www.jdpower.com/cars/expert-reviews/2020-Lincoln-Aviator-Review?make=Lincoln&model=Aviator
