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It's a nice parallel to Lightning so I'm guessing they are going to be PHEV models.

https://www.autoblog.com/2022/07/01/ford-trademarks-thunder-name-for-f-150-ranger-and-maverick/ I would like to speculate that this means we will get a performance street version of the F150 Thunder w/the 5.2L V8 from the Raptor R, Ranger Thunder w/the 3.0L EB HO from the Bronco Raptor and a Maverick Thunder w/the 2.3L EB from the Focus RS.

When the vehicles are available, Ford needs a commercial with AC/DC Thunderstruck playing.

It will eventually apply to ICE as well. It’s just an easier sell for BEVs due to limited volume and limited batteries and the unique things that dealers have to do. My guess is Google is developing a new integrated ordering and tracking system for Model E that will later be adapted to ICE.

To me, lightning is the EV and thunder is the ICE

After all, light(ning) moves faster than sound (thunder).

Have you ever watched the movie Cars? Lightning McQueen calls a competitor Thunder because lightning comes before thunder. Thunder can't be the top model.

Seems like a no brainer.

I have a 2017 with 190K and counting.

Best post of the thread!!!

Yes, but it shouldn’t be only for BEV. The way we buy goods has changed over the years, but the franchise laws and car buying experience hasn’t caught up. Saving $2000 per vehicle is a huge cost savings. Not getting that scale of savings by removing some lighting and chrome trim. I’m all for it.

Correct and thinking about that, developing a true EV will probably be easier if both remain FWD, just add the motor and drive to the engine cradle and modify the floor pan to accept battery pack. AWD is probably unnecessary with such a short wheelbase, less than 100”. For C2 products, extending that FWD based EV approach is possible, even adding AWD in a rear carrier is possible and probably much cheaper to do that MME’s GE platform. So yes, consider me very interested in the smallest BEV execution as a template for C2 if Ford doesn’t use VW’s MEB. Just my opinion, The original plan for C1 electrification failed as a FWD vehicle because the wrong vehicles were selected, imagine that Ford had switched from Focus EV to Escape EV instead of C-Max……that bad decision to develop an electrified C-Max all stems from Ford quitting on the original hybrid Escape right when they should have doubled down. I won’t go on and on about this but really, Ford brass caused a lot of their own misery and rework by completely misreading the wants and needs of buyers (imagine that).

Nothing wrong with a Telluride. The issue is your insistence that this isn’t affecting all mfrs when it’s been widely reported otherwise as well as other member's personal experiences.

Good evening Gents, Am I the only one that scrolls to the end of this thread everyday to a St. Jude Children's ad at the bottom? I have to admit that I have felt my frustration with waiting 10 months for a pickup I have on order and enjoy the information that is put on here by all you folks. I don't mean to pick on anyone, but I can't help but feel that all of us waiting for trucks, venting about a massaging seats or goose neck hitches is just trivial first world problems and hopefully just helps past the time waiting. if you do get the St. Jude ad at the bottom, watch it before venting about a seat or a missed camping outing. It sure helped me put my priorities a little more in order. I will keep reading all of your questions and answer for entertainment and to pass the time, but if the venting on the forum is the extent of your problems you are very lucky...like me. Just a thought.

Yes I keep hoping that mine will just show up with no updates from ford but that has not happened. The frustrating part is you cannot get an answer from anyone, its like my truck was built and now its just sitting somewhere and has been forgotten about. All i can do is hope

A Fusion Hybrid taxicab I rode in Washington, D.C. several years ago showed something like 262k miles on the odometer.

I’ve seen several with 150k+ miles.

I don't think this signifies embracing the so-called 'woke' philosophy. What it really means is automakers are looking for a unified set of regulations nationwide that they can adhere to without the risk of unexpected or regional changes. Since the California Air Resources Board has the right to create its own standards (at least as stringent as the E.P.A.'s) building vehicles to C.A.R.B. standards better ensures some regulatory predictability. Not to mention the fact that any state has the right to adopt C.A.R.B. standards in lieu of E.P.A. standards, and many states choose to do so. Funny that a large percentage of the inflation we are currently experiencing is caused by high oil prices, wouldn't it be helpful if less oil was used for transportation?