Ididntdoit

it'll pass if they get to vote, majority don't even realize how much they currently pay. UAW doesn't communicate very well and not all workers comprehend very well. Put it on a piece of paper ass a lil UAW sugar and it'll pass. Especially now those striking just realized their health care expired with the contract and they'll need to strike 8 days before eligible for cobra and strike funds even though it's written out plain as day on the UAW site they were clueless and thought they were covered for the month. And to be honest 15% is way better then medicare for all like the UAW endorsed politicians want you on. So 3% to 15% is a lot but so is paying 7%-10% of our wage in dues.

need to strike for 8 days before you're eligible for strike benefits, strike for 5 to save some of the credibility of the IUAW and use it as a loophole to tap into more strike funds without paying members. That's what I see.

I totally agree, the plant doesn't deserve it

shinny new contract will magically make morale increase as well as the quality. All these negative headlines beating us down effecting our work flow, extending deadlines just makes it worse.

I see all those amounts of union funds embezzled, I see 9 convicted and sentenced. How much money was taken from members or that should of gone to members instead of their pockets? Who replaces the money embezzled? is that a lose members have to eat? do members need to file a suit? are there enough members with a backbone to stand up to the IUAW or just sit back watch it crumble and find the nearest exit? Hearing more about the fed investigation then the contract negotiations isn't helping anything, IUAW needs to step up or step out not in a week not next month or a year from now, today right now.

the article is actually being generous about the issues, there are issues not mysterious just stubborn management don't listen to veteran employees, we called out the issues in May they ignored until it became a headline. 6 month retooling done in 30 days new equipment into a 100 yr old plant, low moral during contract negotiations, I can provide a book of excuses as to way the quality isn't there. A nice new shinny contract will do wonders to moral and help put the quality back into the products we build. Delaying and extending only gives workers more time to stew in the headlines of scandals dragging moral down even further along with the quality of the product.

I just gotta laugh most of these kids were in grade school when I started, they don't listen to experienced workers they think they know it all. I'm on year 24, been through plant closures, transferred, seen shifts go from 3 to 1 back to 3, seen workers with 5yr get laid off a week before thanksgiving, seen decades of UAW shady politics, nepotism and harassment. And these kids most not even 10 yrs in yet look at me like I don't know what I'm talking about when I see the signs of shifts ending possible product moving to another plant because the workers at the current plant are incompetent and have poor work ethics. Don't be so damn naive, if you have 2 of your biggest profitable products being half ass built in a 100yr old plant that's had a decade worth of recalls over the past year and now the current product having to be repaired right after it leaves the line at another plant you can pretty much guarantee some major changes will take place and not in a good way. I would be completely shocked if CAP is running 3 shifts if any at all. They've learned no matter how much you put in how many you hire you can not produce a quality product with a poorly managed, lack of work ethics, and corrupted local union ran plant. That is why I'd like to offer my 24yr of service for a severance package and pension buyout so that these low seniority know it alls can have their broken plant and corrupted union all to themselves and make it a win win for us all.

Exactly, as it stands now there's no guarantee that in 10 yrs from now Ford sells closes or is reduced to barely nothing. After seeing what the teamsters are dealing with pensions issues I'm not risking my retirement on hopes there will be money for when I'm eligible.

moving on to Ford would be the most intelligent thing they've done all year. But they're not known for intelligence. I'm only saying this because I really really really want a separation with severance and pension buyout. Take one for the team and help Ford's restructuring.

no pride here for Shitcago or their ghetto union thugs, but I do have common sense to get the separation package before the titanic sinks.

I also transferred in 2004, received moving allowance once I started at the new plant. That's a lot of time gone by to question it now, if you didn't address the moving allowance back then I don't think there's much anyone could do for you now. As far as the seniority removed? removed from what exactly? the new benefits site sucks, and has made lots of errors that you could get resolved eventually depending how reliable your benefit rep is.

try again

The longer they take the more time members have to stew in the headlines of the corruption and how they're getting off serving time by ratting out the other. That's solidarity at it's finest. " It's our time to get some of those profits" looks like the UAW leaders got their share at the members expense in past negotiations maybe it's time for members to get theirs at UAW leaderships expense.

I never said it was you assumed that cause Deckers mindless repeating of the rumors at the plant confusing it with my venting of chaos at CAP. But I won't say that it couldn't happen or that it won't because the red flags are all over it.

called it out back in May, you and that short timer fuzzymowmow didn't believe me, him with this I know a guy that knows a guy at a dealership BS. Too much get's swept under the rug, over looked with heads turned the other way.

Gettelfinger, either statue of limitations or they haven't dug back far enough YET. I can't wait to see how this eventually trickles down to local leadership.

I want to sell my Ford pension while it's still worth something, I want complete separation from Ford and the UAW.

https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2019/09/13/ford-2020-explorer-lincoln-aviator-delivery/2292795001/ yeah so I wasn't fear mongering or just blowing smoke. I called it out months ago some just can't handle truth.

they say 94.5% voted yes but if you counted the non votes as no votes it'll be more like 56% they only announced percentage of those who actually voted.

We were the only ones to voted down last ratified contract, I don't know all this jibberish you're talking about activist sheep. I don't sugar coat it or try to play on words. Our Chairman the sexual harasser is a joke, the bargaining units especially the one that was drunk and attacked a member and got shot for it , a joke. Now the guy that shot him won his court battle was justified in self defense got his job back, why is that unit that attacked him still in office??? The election was pathetic and now this BS trying to fill a seat after one of the best passes away by changing the by laws back to fit their needs BS. If you're not bothered by any of this give me some of those pills so I'm numb to it all too. The best is yet to come, wait till someone trys to bid on a job from this app. Only way the signing bonus is more then a 40hr paycheck ( which I still haven't seen since launch) is if their paying us off for the limited health care plan they're gonna hit us with. And that wouldn't be no where near enough to justify any changes to our health care.

About 18 months in fed prison and a slap on the wrist, that's what they get

CAP votes no every time even when everyone else votes yes, we've got the shadiest local trying to pull some BS redoing by laws. We're not being represented, they're collecting our dues and running a scam. Local 551 is making the rest of ya look bad.

Well all I can say is we don't have a local we have a group of thugs that keep changing by laws to get more thugs in, hurry up with this damn contract so I can get out of this BS Close CAP would be in the best interest of the company and the rest of the UAW members, decade of recalls decade of law suits what moron would keep this plant running

we ain't getting a signing bonus we're getting a new explorer voucher instead......just don't park'em on a hill I love new guys who believe their vote counts, first contract? maybe second? 95Triway remember this, us hardcore vet employees us Legacy employees took concessions gave up our COLA so you can have a job today. You're welcome.

That guy is actually there right now, and yes the roof leaks. Thankfully we're having a dry month.