RichardJensen Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Greenlighting comes only when they have finalized the production version which is still going infront of focus groups. That means they still have scheduling flexibility, but in either case, Greenlighting the Flex came VERY late in its development, same with the MKS. The MKS was not greenligt until 6 months after the concept was unveiled in Detroit. No no you turkey. Greenlighting authorizes the project. The design is 'frozen' after the production version is finalized. That's when all the specs are issued to suppliers and production is scheduled. It happens after pilot builds, etc. And designs are now =frozen= relatively close to launch due to flex tooling and computer aided manufacturing engineering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 (edited) There are several steps that are covered in the product delivery process: 1. Funding approval once the vehicle has been developed. 2. Lock in of Hard Points - Initial orders are placed on long lead items. 3. Final clinic work to refine trim/fittings/small fixtures 4. Product Confirmation - everything is now locked in and remaining orders are placed with suppliers. 5. Field and reliability testing. Edited March 18, 2008 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I think 5 & 4 are flip-flopped.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 (edited) I think 5 & 4 are flip-flopped.... I thought so but apparently the CPs are single runs through the factory and used for the reliability testing from about 12 months before release. Could be a little different in the USA though. Edit, Having said that, small changes are always happening right up to about 2-3 months before release Edited March 18, 2008 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 In the US, there's a pilot plant in Dearborn where they build the prototypes and the pre-preproduction builds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 How about designing a "people mover" that can move cargo with the people? how about a 6 person crewcab Superduty dually? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 In the US, there's a pilot plant in Dearborn where they build the prototypes and the pre-preproduction builds. I saw a prototype 2009 F-150 on Hines Drive in Metro Detroit the other day. Something tells me we in Detroit will see the new Fusion running on Hines Drive long before Ford publicly shows it at L.A. Auto Show this November. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armadamaster Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 (edited) Yeah! Ford is going to invest in a niche vehicle instead of something practical! :happy feet: How about designing a "people mover" that can move cargo with the people? +1 Thanks for saying what I was thinking, iif myself or P71 had said it, we'd be the devil. Anything less than third row seating with this turd is assinined. Also keep in mind, according to the :cheerleader: 's on here, the LTC is a niche vehicle. Edited March 18, 2008 by Armada Master Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 (edited) In the US, there's a pilot plant in Dearborn where they build the prototypes and the pre-preproduction builds. Well, there you go. Over here with lower production numbers/rates they can do it without much fuss. Building pre-production models down the lines is not possible in the US and would cause all sorts of dramas. Edited March 18, 2008 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Eventually they do test builds on the line-- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surgen Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Ford hasn't green lighted the MKT yet, where did you get your date from? You need at least 1.5 years to go from green light to dealerships. What's your definition of 'green-lit'. And why do you believe it hasn't been? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 What's your definition of 'green-lit'. And why do you believe it hasn't been? Lincoln needs more new product, the CUV market is the fastest growing market, and Ford has shown an MKT CUV, and an MKR concept car. Ford has talked about rebuilding Lincoln and is serious about bringing it back to previous glory. You can bet an MKT will be built as CUV market is growing, and Lincoln needs 7 passenger CUV to compete. The MKT is it. It's already been slated to be built along side the Flex at Oakville. I would say the MKR is strong possiblity also, but not in concrete yet like MKT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 How about designing a "people mover" that can move cargo with the people? got a 12/ 15 passenger Clubwagon with your name all over it....LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charly Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Ford hasn't green lighted the MKT yet, where did you get your date from? You need at least 1.5 years to go from green light to dealerships. April/May 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 What's your definition of 'green-lit'. frozen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 frozen.then it would be blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 What's your definition of 'green-lit'. Books like "One Hundred Things You Can Do with Compost". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 What's your definition of 'green-lit'. And why do you believe it hasn't been? insert Cheech and Chong dialog here.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 insert Cheech and Chong dialog here.... "You mean we're smokin' dog shit, man?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battyr Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 How about a swivel front passeger seat, like what Chrysler has on their minivans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 What Cheech and Chong movie is that line from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 What Cheech and Chong movie is that line from? Up in Smoke...thus the reference to "green lit" for those incapable of grasping the perhaps obscure....LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Up in Smoke...thus the reference to "green lit" for those incapable of grasping the perhaps obscure....LOL! How about a swivel front passeger seat, like what Chrysler has on their minivans. That line is from "Up in Smoke"? Wow. You really do have to be high to watch those movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 That line is from "Up in Smoke"? Wow. You really do have to be high to watch those movies. on life Richard...hell i coughed my Guts up at a Dave Matthews concert just on green fumes.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 how about a 6 person crewcab Superduty dually? How about a 6/7 person vehicle with adequate space behind the third row? :shades: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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