NickF1011 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 http://jalopnik.com/5039849/chevy-cruze-ge...re-paris-unveil Well...it's an improvement over the Cobalt at least... From what I have heard, it's due in the US as a 2011 model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02MustangGT Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Yep, the Autoweek article says it's a 2011 model. It looks decent, better than the current Focus IMO. We'll see how it stacks up to the all-new Focus which will hopefully be ready before the Cruze starts production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted August 21, 2008 Author Share Posted August 21, 2008 Yep, the Autoweek article says it's a 2011 model. It looks decent, better than the current Focus IMO. We'll see how it stacks up to the all-new Focus which will hopefully be ready before the Cruze starts production. Looks like the Cruze and Focus will be launching at around the same time. I hope the Focus can best this effort though. If it doesn't, I don't think Ford is trying very hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 That looks terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 (edited) I really like that new Fascia, very distinctive and substantial with great architecture. I actually like this fascia much better than the Malibu. The rear fascia is a little haphazard, but not awful. The body looks great but I hate faux windows! STOP THE INSANITY! At least the Focus has a REAL window! Certainly better looking than the Focus which has a wimpy looking fascia by comparison, but I like the rest of the Focus design better. Here is a comparison, notice the Cruze has a similar take on the headlamp design. Edited August 21, 2008 by BORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F150 Man Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 You all missed the point.... It will be built in AMERICA! I believe that will be a big advantage vs Fiesta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted August 21, 2008 Author Share Posted August 21, 2008 You all missed the point.... It will be built in AMERICA! I believe that will be a big advantage vs Fiesta. Umm...this is the replacement for the Cobalt, not the Aveo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F150 Man Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Umm...this is the replacement for the Cobalt, not the Aveo. Correct once again... but it will get the same FE as the Fiesta! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford??-LOL! Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Good looking car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted August 21, 2008 Author Share Posted August 21, 2008 Correct once again... but it will get the same FE as the Fiesta! If the current Aveo and Cobalt are any indication, no it won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardmayo Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Typically not a Chevy car design fan, but it looks really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F150 Man Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 If the current Aveo and Cobalt are any indication, no it won't. "We're also told the new 2011 Chevy Cruze will get three engines when it launches in Europe in March of 2009; a 16-valve, 1.6-liter (112 hp) and 1.8-liter (140 hp) gasoline engine, plus a new 2.0-liter turbo diesel (150 HP). All will be mated to either a five-speed manual or a class-leading six-speed automatic transmission. No official word yet on fuel economy -- but we've been told in the past we should expect somewhere near 45 MPG. We like. Hit the jump for the full press release." The NA version may be closer to 40 MPG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted August 21, 2008 Author Share Posted August 21, 2008 (edited) "We're also told the new 2011 Chevy Cruze will get three engines when it launches in Europe in March of 2009; a 16-valve, 1.6-liter (112 hp) and 1.8-liter (140 hp) gasoline engine, plus a new 2.0-liter turbo diesel (150 HP). All will be mated to either a five-speed manual or a class-leading six-speed automatic transmission. No official word yet on fuel economy -- but we've been told in the past we should expect somewhere near 45 MPG. We like. Hit the jump for the full press release." The NA version may be closer to 40 MPG. I would assume their estimate of 45 MPG was for the turbo diesel, which the United States won't be getting. Maybe 35-36 MPG from the gas engines would be my guess. EDIT: Reading a news story on MSNBC, they made mention of a new 1.4 engine that will be used in the Cruze in the US. Looks like it won't be seeing any of the euro engines. Edited August 21, 2008 by NickF1011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmm55 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Very handsome!..... if a bit busy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I really like that new Fascia, very distinctive and substantial with great architecture. I actually like this fascia much better than the Malibu. The rear fascia is a little haphazard, but not awful. The body looks great but I hate faux windows! STOP THE INSANITY! At least the Focus has a REAL window! Certainly better looking than the Focus which has a wimpy looking fascia by comparison, but I like the rest of the Focus design better. Here is a comparison, notice the Cruze has a similar take on the headlamp design. ugly and uglier....Cruze front on is frowning........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 You all missed the point.... It will be built in AMERICA! I believe that will be a big advantage vs Fiesta. and that stops it from looking like crap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 "We're also told the new 2011 Chevy Cruze will get three engines when it launches in Europe in March of 2009; a 16-valve, 1.6-liter (112 hp) and 1.8-liter (140 hp) gasoline engine, plus a new 2.0-liter turbo diesel (150 HP). All will be mated to either a five-speed manual or a class-leading six-speed automatic transmission. No official word yet on fuel economy -- but we've been told in the past we should expect somewhere near 45 MPG. We like. Hit the jump for the full press release." The NA version may be closer to 40 MPG. If the little Aveo only gets 34 mpg, how the hell is the bigger Cruz going to get over 40mpg. I don't get it. A 6 speed auto gives you about 7% better gas mileage and a more areodynamic shape maybe 5%. GM must be going to a very small displacement engine to have any chance for 40mpg. The Yaris and Fit get nowhere near 40mpg, and the new Fiesta is reputed to get 39mpg maybe. The Cruz is a C segment vehicle, not a B segment vehicle like the Fiesta. GM is making a big claim and I hope they can back it up when the Cruz does come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 I've only seen the one pic in this thread, but that doesn't look bad at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarBear Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 If the little Aveo only gets 34 mpg, how the hell is the bigger Cruz going to get over 40mpg. I don't get it. A 6 speed auto gives you about 7% better gas mileage and a more areodynamic shape maybe 5%. GM must be going to a very small displacement engine to have any chance for 40mpg. The Yaris and Fit get nowhere near 40mpg, and the new Fiesta is reputed to get 39mpg maybe. The Cruz is a C segment vehicle, not a B segment vehicle like the Fiesta. GM is making a big claim and I hope they can back it up when the Cruz does come out. Supposed to have a 1.4L direct-injection turbo. The Cobalt's already at 37 hwy EPA (better than the Aveo, actually), so 40 shouldn't be that hard a target to hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted August 25, 2008 Author Share Posted August 25, 2008 Supposed to have a 1.4L direct-injection turbo. The Cobalt's already at 37 hwy EPA (better than the Aveo, actually), so 40 shouldn't be that hard a target to hit. The only Cobalt that gets 37 MPG is the manual trans XFE. The automatic Cobalt only gets 33 highway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MERKURXR4Ti Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 (edited) The only Cobalt that gets 37 MPG is the manual trans XFE. The automatic Cobalt only gets 33 highway. So they make a Cruze XFE, give it a six speed, a 1.4L DI Turbo engine, low rolling resistance tires, and fine tune the aerodynamics..I don't see 40 all that hard to get. It might not be the base model, but it's possible. This would sell really well. Edited August 25, 2008 by MERKURXR4Ti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted August 25, 2008 Author Share Posted August 25, 2008 So they make a Cruze XFE, give it a six speed, a 1.4L DI Turbo engine, low rolling resistance tires, and fine tune the aerodynamics..I don't see 40 all that hard to get. It might not be the base model, but it's possible. This would sell really well. If it has a manual of any sort, it will sell like crap, even if it gets 40 mpg. I'm sure there will be an XFE and 40 mpg is a real possibility...it just won't be the volume model, just as it isn't for the Cobalt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MERKURXR4Ti Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 (edited) If it has a manual of any sort, it will sell like crap, even if it gets 40 mpg. I'm sure there will be an XFE and 40 mpg is a real possibility...it just won't be the volume model, just as it isn't for the Cobalt. I agree that most people won't buy a high mileage XFE in a manual; meaning one less car will offer one in the future (unfortunately). Though since it comes with a 6spd auto in Europe, that would most likely be the choice. I bet the current cobalt XFE is only manual because it's that or a 4spd? and GM didn't have time to stick a 6spd auto in there. Though as you said, still not the volume (base) model, I doubt any DI Turbo engine will reside in a base model (inexpensive) compact for some time. But with a 6spd and a retuned 4cyl, the base should still be close to 40. Edited August 25, 2008 by MERKURXR4Ti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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