fantasyfrank Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I read an email from a salaried retiree report that stated that LAP could be on a future closure list. I'm not going to give out any names to protect the innocent parties involved, I SWEAR I'm not making this up. I don't know if there is any truth to this but I read the email and it was not bogus and it stated LAP is a target plant. I know we all have heard about a new product coming to LAP, the state of KY giving Ford all kinds of tax breaks so I can't figure out why LAP "could be" on the hit list but people down in Louisville need to do there homework. People who know me would go to bat for me and tell you I'm not making this up, I read the email, I saw it and I take this very seriously. LAP people, start pulling strings and find out if this is true....I hope it's not. Don't shoot the messenger, I'm giving out facts on what I read and what I read I hope is 1000% wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topgun Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I read an email from a salaried retiree report that stated that LAP could be on a future closure list. I'm not going to give out any names to protect the innocent parties involved, I SWEAR I'm not making this up. I don't know if there is any truth to this but I read the email and it was not bogus and it stated LAP is a target plant. I know we all have heard about a new product coming to LAP, the state of KY giving Ford all kinds of tax breaks so I can't figure out why LAP "could be" on the hit list but people down in Louisville need to do there homework. People who know me would go to bat for me and tell you I'm not making this up, I read the email, I saw it and I take this very seriously. LAP people, start pulling strings and find out if this is true....I hope it's not. Don't shoot the messenger, I'm giving out facts on what I read and what I read I hope is 1000% wrong. That was probably an email from the Way Forward Plan of Jan 2006 , things have changed since your new contract, and I doubt a salaried retiree would be getting those kind of reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBGB Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I read an email from a salaried retiree report that stated that LAP could be on a future closure list. I'm not going to give out any names to protect the innocent parties involved, I SWEAR I'm not making this up. I don't know if there is any truth to this but I read the email and it was not bogus and it stated LAP is a target plant. I know we all have heard about a new product coming to LAP, the state of KY giving Ford all kinds of tax breaks so I can't figure out why LAP "could be" on the hit list but people down in Louisville need to do there homework. People who know me would go to bat for me and tell you I'm not making this up, I read the email, I saw it and I take this very seriously. LAP people, start pulling strings and find out if this is true....I hope it's not. Don't shoot the messenger, I'm giving out facts on what I read and what I read I hope is 1000% wrong. I've been at LAP for a little over 20 years. I have not heard this rumor, but I would not be suprised if it turns out to be true. I have felt all along that they were not being truthful about the future of our plant. I hope for everyone's sake,it is only a rumor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homerhero Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I got an Email that promise that they can grow my penis 3 more inches if I take their supplements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalu Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I've been at LAP for a little over 20 years. I have not heard this rumor, but I would not be suprised if it turns out to be true. I have felt all along that they were not being truthful about the future of our plant. I hope for everyone's sake,it is only a rumor. It's been a while since I have been to Louisville, have friends and family there. Isn't LAP surrounded by a huge UPS terminal? I heard it was, and that UPS in the past has wanted the land that LAP sits on, if so Ford could make alot of money just as it did on SLAP. I hope this is untrue, I love Louisville, my brother and sister were born there, were all in for a rough ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfan Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Look at Wayne and MTP,FORD got a plant closure out of that deal...once mtp gets retooled wayne will no longer be an assembly plant.. Mark Fields the sneak got his plant closing, and the UAW sold everyone out at that plant. Golden rule- those with the gold rule. Agreements these days are not worth the paper they are written on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvsked Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Look at Wayne and MTP,FORD got a plant closure out of that deal...once mtp gets retooled wayne will no longer be an assembly plant.. I wouldn't count out WAP, sure in this business climate plans for WAP are on hold, but I wouldn't count them out. On the topic of Louisville I know a vendor in Cincinnati that has a contract to upgrade the paint dept due to be done in spring 09. Not to say business conditions couldn't change and stall Louisville but I believe there is a good future their. My 2 cents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixon4pres Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I wouldn't count out WAP, sure in this business climate plans for WAP are on hold, but I wouldn't count them out. On the topic of Louisville I know a vendor in Cincinnati that has a contract to upgrade the paint dept due to be done in spring 09. Not to say business conditions couldn't change and stall Louisville but I believe there is a good future their. My 2 cents not sure how well the politicians will appreciated the tax breaks going to hire vendors from other states to upgrade LAP. bad move on Fords part if this is true. "Ill hang up and listen" :blah: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSMJ Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I got an Email that promise that they can grow my penis 3 more inches if I take their supplements. I need a decreaser!~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 :happy feet: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSMJ Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 (edited) There are no plans for Wayne...It will no longer be an assembly plant building vehicles once MTP is retooled!! Your probably right on that Edited October 16, 2008 by CSMJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantasyfrank Posted October 16, 2008 Author Share Posted October 16, 2008 I got an Email that promise that they can grow my penis 3 more inches if I take their supplements. good for you homer...take a triple dose then stick your penis up your ass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin@LAP Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Actually just yesterday there was talk from credible sources that LAP would likely be a 3 crew plant. Sales would have to support it of course. Preparations for retool are still underway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I doubt a salaried retiree would be getting those kind of reports. BINGO! If a retiree was made privy to that kind of information, it would be verbal, not in writing. That being said, like the original poster said, do some investigating on your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 It's been a while since I have been to Louisville, have friends and family there. Isn't LAP surrounded by a huge UPS terminal? I heard it was, and that UPS in the past has wanted the land that LAP sits on, if so Ford could make alot of money just as it did on SLAP. I hope this is untrue, I love Louisville, my brother and sister were born there, were all in for a rough ride. Atlanta all over again. If the land is worth more than the tax breaks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Actually just yesterday there was talk from credible sources that LAP would likely be a 3 crew plant. Sales would have to support it of course. Preparations for retool are still underway. The ultimate goal is to have a handful of super plants. Flexible, with high potential output. Easy to switch between models depending on the state of economy and fuel prices. Retooling only buys a few years. The plants that are in it for the long haul are the ones with major renovation (DTP, OAC as examples) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotlanta Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I wouldn't be surprised at all if LAP were to shut down. With the economy in such dire straits, it's only a matter of time before the axe has got to fall somewhere. And just because Ford says LAP is going to retool, nothing is set in stone, and they can change their mind (OR the contract, for that matter) if market conditions decline, which we all know they have. Things are not getting better anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I heard that rumor today at LAP and that KTP may be getting our product and future product.This economy sucks! I hope its not true. Do we get three guesses as to what plant you are at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantasyfrank Posted October 16, 2008 Author Share Posted October 16, 2008 That was probably an email from the Way Forward Plan of Jan 2006 , things have changed since your new contract, and I doubt a salaried retiree would be getting those kind of reports. No, this email was dated this week. The salaried retiree meetings keep people updated on benefits, (which they have none) company announcements, etc. I know this guy personally and I know he wouldn't say it if it didn't come from a reliable sorce, why would he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapsergio Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I didn't know we were still open now. LMAO I have worked one week in the last 3 months, but we are supposed to return next week. Homerhero's post is the best in the thread...that's the way everyone should reply to this bogus rumor. But worry not, once Obama gets in office, overtime for everyone with lots of new jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTPnightshift4life Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Atlanta all over again. If the land is worth more than the tax breaks... The value of the land means nothing to Ford because they do not own it. The property is owned by CSX Transportation (originally Louisville & Nashville RR) and leased long term to Ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc38 Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I didn't know we were still open now. LMAOI have worked one week in the last 3 months, but we are supposed to return next week. Homerhero's post is the best in the thread...that's the way everyone should reply to this bogus rumor. But worry not, once Obama gets in office, overtime for everyone with lots of new jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnightshiftvisitor Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 (edited) The value of the land means nothing to Ford because they do not own it. The property is owned by CSX Transportation (originally Louisville & Nashville RR) and leased long term to Ford. I could be wrong... but if you look up the Jefferson county PVA and type in 2000 Fern Valley Rd, it list Ford Motor Co. World HDQTs as the owner of the property, here is a link, the CSX onwing the property has been BS for along time http://www.pvalouky.org/propertyinfo/detail.php?lrsn=8102320 If CSX owned the property, it would not have Ford listed on the PVA!! P.S. Ford is paying the property taxes also My previos link went to the beginning of the alphabet, here is the Jeff. Cty Sheriff http://www.jcsoky.org/ptax_search_addr.asp type in 2000 Fern valley rd Edited October 16, 2008 by midnightshiftvisitor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin' Rick Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 P.S. Ford is paying the property taxes also My previos link went to the beginning of the alphabet, here is the Jeff. Cty Sheriff http://www.jcsoky.org/ptax_search_addr.asp type in 2000 Fern valley rd No record found: 2000 Fern Valley Rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disabled Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 No, this email was dated this week. The salaried retiree meetings keep people updated on benefits, (which they have none) company announcements, etc. I know this guy personally and I know he wouldn't say it if it didn't come from a reliable sorce, why would he? I am a ford salaried retiree and once you retire the company does not send you letters on plant closings. The only messages you receive are when they cut your benefits. If it is from a retiree club it is conjecture and rumor. Do you honestly believe that Ford would disclose this to a retiree club let alone in a newsletter to all salaried retirees. What purpose would it serve? Why would they do it? Sounds like S&%t stirring to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnightshiftvisitor Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 P.S. Ford is paying the property taxes alsoMy previous link went to the beginning of the alphabet, here is the Jeff. Cty Sheriff http://www.jcsoky.org/ptax_search_addr.asp type in 2000 Fern valley rd No record found: 2000 Fern Valley Rd. try it again RR, it works for me, the property is assessed at $25,938,790.00 the taxes Ford pays is $245,176.04 per year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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