rkisler Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 (edited) Well, the NYT has finally woken up at least a bit and singled out Ford's product and environmental push: "While General Motors and Chrysler plead to Congress for a bailout, Mr. Ford has reached out to President-elect Barack Obama in hopes that his company can benefit from the administration’s longer-term strategies for the auto industry. Mr. Ford has been working behind the scenes, meeting one-on-one with Mr. Obama in August, conferring with his senior economic advisers, and teaming up with Gov. Jennifer Granholm of Michigan to push a vision of a leaner, greener auto industry. With Detroit on the brink of disaster, the great-grandson of Henry Ford could play a critical role in how the Obama administration decides to assist the companies financially and shape broader energy policies." http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/24/business...mp;ref=business Edited November 24, 2008 by Austin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 (edited) Interesting article. Glad to see that the media is picking up on how Ford is doing better than GM or Chrysler. Edited November 24, 2008 by rmc523 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordowner Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Yes, just read the article and was going to post the link. I agree its nice to see that William Ford has been busy behind the scenes and their is recognition in the NYT that Ford is ahead of the other two and potentially could make it through. Though I think the article may be wrong in the sense one is left with the impression that Ford could survive GM going bankrupt, from what i've always heard that will tank the suppliers and thus tank Ford. But in addition to being ahead from a balance sheet point of view nice to see that the president elect may also recognize that Ford is a potential ally in the president elects vision for the future of the auto industry. And they haven't even spoken about the living roof yet! Or how sweet the Mustang is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT-Keith Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 At least there are a few decent people who are able to think, read and research for themselves instead of cling to that misinformed consensus. Off-Topic(Sort of): Did anyone watch Meet The Press today? One of their topics was about 'the big 3' and this foreign woman took the stand to give her opinion on the matter - She would constantly spout 'gas guzzling suvs' as being one of the sole reason 'the big 3' are failing. It was funny because her argument didn't revolve around anything else. I'm just flabbergasted at how someone can be heralded as being intelligent yet shes so misinformed on the auto industries financial woes. I think someone should tell her that Ford is leading in every segment in terms of fuel economy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I think someone should tell her that Ford is leading in every segment in terms of fuel economy I don't think that statement is true, is it? Welcome to BOF, by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I don't think that statement is true, is it? Welcome to BOF, by the way. It's not. But they do have best fuel economy in more sectors than any other automaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 It's not. But they do have best fuel economy in more sectors than any other automaker. Interesting, I guess I didn't realize that. What sectors are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Interesting, I guess I didn't realize that. What sectors are they? Compact sedan highway - Focus Midsize sedan city and highway - '10 Fusion Fullsize sedan highway - Taurus Small CUV city and highway - Escape Hybrid Midsize CUV highway - Edge Fullsize CUV city and highway - Flex Compact Pickup city and highway - Ranger Fullsize Pickup city and highway - F-150 I think that's all of 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomaro Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Am I the only who doesn't believe that GM or Chrysler going bankrupt will not bankrupt the supply chain and thus bankrupt Ford?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordowner Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Am I the only who doesn't believe that GM or Chrysler going bankrupt will not bankrupt the supply chain and thus bankrupt Ford?? The NYT agrees with you. I don't have first hand knowledge just been trying to follow all this and that seems to be the vast consensus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Fullsize sedan highway - TaurusSmall CUV city and highway - Escape Hybrid I think it's actually fullsize sedan city (Impala does 1mpg better on the highway, IIRC). Also, if you include hybrids, the Highlander is better than the Edge & Flex. However, if you exclude hybrids, the Escape is still the best compact ute. --- The 'problem' vehicles are the Explorer and Expedition. Which are not =awful=, but the 4Runner gets better gas mileage than the Explorer, and the Expy is 1MPG behind the Tahoe XFE and a couple MPG behind the Tahoe hybrid. Also, the '09 Expy is an exceptionally short model run. They've already stopped building them (MTP closed Friday for small car retooling) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bored of Pisteon Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 At least there are a few decent people who are able to think, read and research for themselves instead of cling to that misinformed consensus. Off-Topic(Sort of): Did anyone watch Meet The Press today? One of their topics was about 'the big 3' and this foreign woman took the stand to give her opinion on the matter - She would constantly spout 'gas guzzling suvs' as being one of the sole reason 'the big 3' are failing. It was funny because her argument didn't revolve around anything else. I'm just flabbergasted at how someone can be heralded as being intelligent yet shes so misinformed on the auto industries financial woes. I think someone should tell her that Ford is leading in every segment in terms of fuel economy What do expect from a left-wing operation at NBC News? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 What do expect from a left-wing operation at NBC News? NBC also just laid off Dave Schwartz from the Weather Channel too. He was my favorite weather guy!! Those bastiges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnFan Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 NBC also just laid off Dave Schwartz from the Weather Channel too. He was my favorite weather guy!! Those bastiges. Who the hell wants to watch a man report about weather? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Who the hell wants to watch a man report about weather? Awww come on, he made weather fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I think it's actually fullsize sedan city (Impala does 1mpg better on the highway, IIRC). Is the Impala still full size? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnFan Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Awww come on, he made weather fun. I'll bite, how does one make weather fun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Is the Impala still full size? Yup. I'll bite, how does one make weather fun? Aww, lots of ways. He was just a fun-loving, happy-go-lucky guy. He'd crack jokes and always deliver the forecast with a smile! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Where LincolnFan lives, they don't have weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Weather not Fun?? Blasphemers! I love weather. I run a weather website out of my own house. http://www.bismarckweather.net We have a local weather guy that is almost 7 foot, Tom Szymanski. He's a hoot. Old video from his days out on the east coast. (that the eastern side of the state to people from ND) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Weather not Fun?? Blasphemers! I love weather. I run a weather website out of my own house. http://www.bismarckweather.net Most fun thing I learned in my Meteorology class is that air entering the compressed cabin of an airplane crusing at 30,000 feet actually has to be COOLED by about 90F to be comfortable to the cabin's occupants. :yup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 (edited) Most fun thing I learned in my Meteorology class is that air entering the compressed cabin of an airplane crusing at 30,000 feet actually has to be COOLED by about 90F to be comfortable to the cabin's occupants. :yup: One of my college room mates was a Meteorology major. I guess he's a weatherman somewhere now. Great article in the NYT. I was hoping we would hear from Bill Ford. He needs to be outfront on the job Mulally has done in turning Ford around Edited November 24, 2008 by Mark B. Morrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Old video from his days out on the east coast. (that the eastern side of the state to people from ND) That's what you call the east side of the state? Wacky. BTW, GO JACKS!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefstang Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 (edited) That's what you call the east side of the state? Wacky. BTW, GO JACKS!!!! BTW, what is (are) Jacks? I'm probably the last one here to ask... Edited November 24, 2008 by chiefstang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macattak1 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Am I the only who doesn't believe that GM or Chrysler going bankrupt will not bankrupt the supply chain and thus bankrupt Ford?? I do. They sold us on the Banks that our economy is a house of cards and were all doomed to disaster if we don't bail them out. That was a lie and so is it when they say that the same will happen with the auto industry. No one goes bankrupt and just disappears. At some point creditors, buyers, someone with money steps in a pays 10 cents on the dollar to scoop up a great deal and keeps the ball rolling. Peace and Blessings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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