lquidspine Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 A source I have has stated sometime this week Local Presidents and Unit Chairman will be getting the concession packages from International. Again this is only from one source but a pretty high ranking source and is not a prediction like our friend CSMJ. I will seek further information but here is a run down and no official language as to what will be asked of rank and file. JSP- language changes, not a total elimination but very strict guidelines. ETAP- gone Nickel Funds -gone= whats used for things such as sending employee's to black lake Dependant tuition assistance program- gone Attendance Policy changes- attendance policy made even stricter than what was in the 2007 contract Again all this from only one source but a pretty reliable one, he also stated that workers from DTP-body/ Stamping Employee's will be voting on this as early as this coming weeks unit meeting on Saturday. I will update as I get more information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereswaldo Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 A source I have has stated sometime this week Local Presidents and Unit Chairman will be getting the concession packages from International. Again this is only from one source but a pretty high ranking source and is not a prediction like our friend CSMJ.I will seek further information but here is a run down and no official language as to what will be asked of rank and file. JSP- language changes, not a total elimination but very strict guidelines. ETAP- gone Nickel Funds -gone= whats used for things such as sending employee's to black lake Dependant tuition assistance program- gone Attendance Policy changes- attendance policy made even stricter than what was in the 2007 contract Again all this from only one source but a pretty reliable one, he also stated that workers from DTP-body/ Stamping Employee's will be voting on this as early as this coming weeks unit meeting on Saturday. I will update as I get more information You may want to get a new source. I heard all of this while everyone was at sub council last week,Tue thru Thurs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBGB Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 A source I have has stated sometime this week Local Presidents and Unit Chairman will be getting the concession packages from International. Again this is only from one source but a pretty high ranking source and is not a prediction like our friend CSMJ. I will seek further information but here is a run down and no official language as to what will be asked of rank and file. JSP- language changes, not a total elimination but very strict guidelines. ETAP- gone Nickel Funds -gone= whats used for things such as sending employee's to black lake Dependant tuition assistance program- gone Attendance Policy changes- attendance policy made even stricter than what was in the 2007 contract Again all this from only one source but a pretty reliable one, he also stated that workers from DTP-body/ Stamping Employee's will be voting on this as early as this coming weeks unit meeting on Saturday. I will update as I get more information I received an email from our Building Chairman. He stated ETAP and The Dependent Scholarship Program is suspended. Just my luck. I'm enrolled at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, and classes start Jan.15th. Just need 40 hours to obtain my Bachelor Of Science in Aviation Maintenance. I thought Ford wanted to get rid of people. How can you leave without something descent to go to. I feel that this is counter-productive, but hey this is Ford Motor Company Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lquidspine Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 (edited) You may want to get a new source. I heard all of this while everyone was at sub council last week,Tue thru Thurs. I did not get the invite to be part of any sub council meetings, so i get second,third hand information myself, nor does the majority of rank and file get invited to sub council so we are kind of outa the loop. Edited December 15, 2008 by lquidspine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I received an email from our Building Chairman.He stated ETAP and The Dependent Scholarship Program is suspended. Just my luck. I'm enrolled at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, and classes start Jan.15th. Just need 40 hours to obtain my Bachelor Of Science in Aviation Maintenance. I thought Ford wanted to get rid of people. How can you leave without something descent to go to. I feel that this is counter-productive, but hey this is Ford Motor Company You may want to check with your rep as your first quarter/semester may still be paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makeastand Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Thanks for the info Liquidspine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BioDiesel Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 You may want to check with your rep as your first quarter/semester may still be paid. First quarter will be paid. Register this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTP Body Door Hang Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 ETAP Gone?? Well ain't that dandy. Anyone got about 7,500 so I can finish up my degree? LOL Guess it is time to start looking for financial aid. It'll do me some good, by the time my oldest goes to school in 2 years I'll already know all the hoops she has to jump through. :stats: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSMJ Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 A source I have has stated sometime this week Local Presidents and Unit Chairman will be getting the concession packages from International. Again this is only from one source but a pretty high ranking source and is not a prediction like our friend CSMJ. I will seek further information but here is a run down and no official language as to what will be asked of rank and file. JSP- language changes, not a total elimination but very strict guidelines. ETAP- gone Nickel Funds -gone= whats used for things such as sending employee's to black lake Dependant tuition assistance program- gone Attendance Policy changes- attendance policy made even stricter than what was in the 2007 contract All of which I said would happen weeks ago! JSP will have a 15 yr rule on it. I stated before ETAP has to go and that all of the MEDICAL/ Restriction GAMES were coming to an end! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oser51 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Explain 15 yr. rule on jsp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uRfk9AcDfo9Wui Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Explain 15 yr. rule on jsp. I think it's pretty simple, if you don't have 15 years with the company, you can't enter JSP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftski Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I think it's pretty simple, if you don't have 15 years with the company, you can't enter JSP. Guess that means that there is no more JSP! Look at the seniority in it right now, 95% under 15 years. We at Rawsonville have been put there due to outsourcing of our jobs! Anyone with less than 15 years will lose their jobs if this is true. The big 3 will eliminate everyone with low seniority if we let this come to pass. Outsourcing will be increased and the UAW won't have a leg to stand on to fight this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twincam Harley Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Did the Republican Senators insist on this "proposed" attendance policy change as part of the loan requirements? I doubt it and I find it odd that a change is wanted and how this will help the company increase market share to become profitable again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oser51 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I think it's pretty simple, if you don't have 15 years with the company, you can't enter JSP. No shit. What about the people already in jsp. Are we going to let them put us on the street with thousands of TEMPS working. What the fuck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTP Body Door Hang Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Did the Republican Senators insist on this "proposed" attendance policy change as part of the loan requirements? I doubt it and I find it odd that a change is wanted and how this will help the company increase market share to become profitable again. It's a quick way of getting rid of low seniority. Not to mention that once your unemployment and SUB run out you can get your job back, at a pay cut of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allin Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 The Ford website had a letter last week to "employees" from Bill saying the education funding has been suspended. When checking the status of an application I had just sent in, it was shown as being paid. Be nice to get another semester of funds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uRfk9AcDfo9Wui Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 No shit. What about the people already in jsp. Are we going to let them put us on the street with thousands of TEMPS working. What the fuck? It's going to get UGLY!! The worse is yet to come! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allin Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Looks like more will be losing their jobs, the workers at the education funding center. That sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleu Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Read in our paper saturday that Honda of America is stopping production for the next several months. They will however be keeping all employees on the payroll. Toyota has more people in their "jobs bank" than the big 3 combined. What gives? Why are we giving up our jsp? Gettelfinger is throwing us under the bus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm2607 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Guess that means that there is no more JSP! Look at the seniority in it right now, 95% under 15 years. We at Rawsonville have been put there due to outsourcing of our jobs! Anyone with less than 15 years will lose their jobs if this is true. The big 3 will eliminate everyone with low seniority if we let this come to pass. Outsourcing will be increased and the UAW won't have a leg to stand on to fight this!I think everyone needs to wait and see what the "strict restrictions" will be. No one has said anything about a "15 yr. rule" except CSMJ and we all know how his predictions turn out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rn4 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I think everyone needs to wait and see what the "strict restrictions" will be. No one has said anything about a "15 yr. rule" except CSMJ and we all know how his predictions turn out. He is bringing up the old GIS program which was for people with 15 or more years. I think they eliminated that in this contract. The JSP language has no mention of a 15 year rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc38 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 It's a quick way of getting rid of low seniority. Not to mention that once your unemployment and SUB run out you can get your job back, at a pay cut of course. Even if people run out of UI and SUB,they will still have recall rights for years of service. Remember that people are fully vested at 10 yrs. I'd say the cutoff might start there instead of 15 yrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc38 Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I received an email from our Building Chairman.He stated ETAP and The Dependent Scholarship Program is suspended. Just my luck. I'm enrolled at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, and classes start Jan.15th. Just need 40 hours to obtain my Bachelor Of Science in Aviation Maintenance. I thought Ford wanted to get rid of people. How can you leave without something descent to go to. I feel that this is counter-productive, but hey this is Ford Motor Company I agree with you,why not get rid of the legal aid instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newone Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 He is bringing up the old GIS program which was for people with 15 or more years. I think they eliminated that in this contract. The JSP language has no mention of a 15 year rule. as i recall g.i.s. started with 10 years of senority. i could be wrong though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allin Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 (edited) as i recall g.i.s. started with 10 years of senority. i could be wrong though 10 years with a plant closing, otherwise 15. Years ago anyways. Edited December 15, 2008 by allin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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