ANTAUS Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 LINK-Edmunds.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowsenority Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 LINK-Edmunds.com I'd rather spend another $2000 and get the new 370Z with sport package with 19" forged RAYS wheels, more HP, and just a all around better looking car. I don't need heated leather seats in my sports car. If I want to warm them up, I'll just fart in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calypsocoral Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Relatively unbiased, given that it's an Edmunds review. Surprisingly no comparison to a VW! Anyway, so its major flaws are dull steering feel, softly-sprung, and a rev limiter that might compromise acceleration a bit. That's it. Not bad for a first effort on Hyundai's part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 I just see this as where the Tiburon left off... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxcomet Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Agreed. Tiburon grows up and becomes an Infinity G37 Coupe wannabe instead of a Mitsubishi Eclipse wannabe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Agreed. Tiburon grows up and becomes an Infinity G37 Coupe wannabe instead of a Mitsubishi Eclipse wannabe. Good summary! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_fairmont_wagon Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Except that the Tiburon may actually carry forward too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford-150 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Great idea Hyundai had right their...WTF did they do to the design though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calypsocoral Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 I just see this as where the Tiburon left off... How? The only thing they have in common is the 4-cyl engine block. Tiburon= 2000 Mitsubishi Eclipse, re-skinned. Anemic engine lineup at best. No street cred whatsoever. Basically, a 2-door Elantra, if such a thing existed. GenCoupe= All-original, all-Hyundai platform. Excellent engine choices sporting up-to-date technology. Optional Brembo brakes (which, btw, the Mustang doesn't offer, except on the $50K+ Shelby GT-500), lots of room for aftermarket upgrades. The only quirks mentioned were software calibration, which can be changed with the right equipment. Point being, they are nothing alike. You guys had your minds made up before Hyundai even announced this car's existence. It amuses me endlessly to see you guys complain about an article, citing the author's lack of hands-on experience with the car in THIS THREAD, only to turn around and do the exact same thing yourselves. Give me a freakin' break. :slap: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted February 27, 2009 Author Share Posted February 27, 2009 Oh my f-ken God, when I made the comment, I was talking "in essence". As in, this vehicle picks up from where the Tiburon left off. Meaning...2 door coupe at a lower price point...now a 2 door coupe, at a higher price point that people can grow into. I at no point made ANY specific details about engine blocks, 4 cylinder blah blah, etc. or whack off fantasies about where the vehicle came from, where it stemmed from, what it wants to battle, who it thinks it's competition is, blah blah. Don't get your panties in a bunch, geesh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 (edited) How? The only thing they have in common is the 4-cyl engine block. Tiburon= 2000 Mitsubishi Eclipse, re-skinned. Anemic engine lineup at best. No street cred whatsoever. Basically, a 2-door Elantra, if such a thing existed. GenCoupe= All-original, all-Hyundai platform. Excellent engine choices sporting up-to-date technology. Optional Brembo brakes (which, btw, the Mustang doesn't offer, except on the $50K+ Shelby GT-500), lots of room for aftermarket upgrades. The only quirks mentioned were software calibration, which can be changed with the right equipment. Point being, they are nothing alike. You guys had your minds made up before Hyundai even announced this car's existence. It amuses me endlessly to see you guys complain about an article, citing the author's lack of hands-on experience with the car in THIS THREAD, only to turn around and do the exact same thing yourselves. Give me a freakin' break. :slap: But like the Tiburon, the Genesis coupe appears to maintain the dead steering feel and sloppy suspension compliance. Does it look like a good vehicle? Eh, I guess. Does it look like a great vehicle? It's no Mustang, that's for sure. And ooooo ahhhhh on the Brembo brakes. If they are anything like the Brembo brakes Ford used on the Cobras, they aren't worth their weight in crap. Edited February 27, 2009 by NickF1011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Reynolds Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Other reviews that I've read have likened this as a 3/4s scale G37, for a lot less. I wouldn't mind test driving one, to see how it measures up against our sedan. My only issue here is overall performance, and I'd like to see a comparo pitting this against the Mustang, Challenger and Camaro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREMiERdrum Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 My only issue here is overall performance, and I'd like to see a comparo pitting this against the Mustang, Challenger and Camaro. Well, hopefully that will be possible shortly after GM launches the car in, what is it now? 2013? Anyone know if they ever got the interior tooling from the supplier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixt9coug Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Mustang GT is cheaper, faster, benefits from existing aftermarket support better (and probably always will), and gets damn near the same fuel milage. Oh, but the Genesis has an IRS. I DO think the Genesis Coupe is 'neat' though. It looks too much like the last Tiburon, but i never thought it was a bad (albeit a bit cheap) looking car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calypsocoral Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Oh my f-ken God, when I made the comment, I was talking "in essence". As in, this vehicle picks up from where the Tiburon left off. Meaning...2 door coupe at a lower price point...now a 2 door coupe, at a higher price point that people can grow into. I at no point made ANY specific details about engine blocks, 4 cylinder blah blah, etc. or whack off fantasies about where the vehicle came from, where it stemmed from, what it wants to battle, who it thinks it's competition is, blah blah. Don't get your panties in a bunch, geesh! Antaus, You're right. I over-reacted, and I apologize. I was more PO'd at the posts that replied to yours than I was at your post in particular. For future reference, however, comparing the Genesis to a Tiburon is sort of like comparing a Mustang to an Escort ZX2. On another note, Mustang fans have a reason to rejoice-- the Genesis Coupe gives Ford a perfectly good reason to build a 4-cylinder EcoBoost Mustang! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefstang Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 Antaus, You're right. I over-reacted, and I apologize. I was more PO'd at the posts that replied to yours than I was at your post in particular. For future reference, however, comparing the Genesis to a Tiburon is sort of like comparing a Mustang to an Escort ZX2. On another note, Mustang fans have a reason to rejoice-- the Genesis Coupe gives Ford a perfectly good reason to build a 4-cylinder EcoBoost Mustang! Sorry, you can put me with the group of people that want to throw up at the idea of another four cylinder Mustang. Hate it. If I want rice, I'll buy rice. I want a Mustang... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordBuyer Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Mustang GT is cheaper, faster, benefits from existing aftermarket support better (and probably always will), and gets damn near the same fuel milage. Oh, but the Genesis has an IRS. I DO think the Genesis Coupe is 'neat' though. It looks too much like the last Tiburon, but i never thought it was a bad (albeit a bit cheap) looking car. The Mustang GT is a LOT faster. The Genesis Coupe does 0-60 in the mid 6's and the Mustang GT is low 5's and some can get it in high 4's, especially the 2010 model. Dang, the 2010 Fusion Sport will probably do 0-60 in mid 6's. Maybe even a 2010 Fusion SE with V6 and $22,000 price tag will probably do 0-60 in 6's. Big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Hyundai is poising itself well for the post recession boom. There is a new Sonata on the way as well that looks serious. http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/27/spy-sho...or-coupe-route/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 Ford Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Sorry, you can put me with the group of people that want to throw up at the idea of another four cylinder Mustang. Hate it. If I want rice, I'll buy rice. I want a Mustang... If the 3.5EB is any indicator, a 2.5 Ecoboost would be like a NA 3.5 with a much better torque curve and better fuel economy (and lighter). It would in no way be similar to the high reving torqueless wonders in the Civic Si or S2000. I'd still take the V8, but for the majority of people that take the V6's, it'd be a big upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowsenority Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 It's no Mustang, that's for sure. And ooooo ahhhhh on the Brembo brakes. If they are anything like the Brembo brakes Ford used on the Cobras, they aren't worth their weight in crap. I think the Brembo's on the Cobra was simply Brembo pads. I had a 04' Cobra and I own a EVO now and the calipers are completely different. My calipers on my EVO are more along the lines of what came on the 350 track model, STI, GT500, and G35 coupes. The Genesis looks to have those Brembos from what I've seen in pics. Mustang GT is cheaper, faster, benefits from existing aftermarket support better (and probably always will), and gets damn near the same fuel milage. Oh, but the Genesis has an IRS. I DO think the Genesis Coupe is 'neat' though. It looks too much like the last Tiburon, but i never thought it was a bad (albeit a bit cheap) looking car. Can't say much on the V6 model Genesis, but the turbo 4 banger already has a aftermarket. It shares the same 4B11 engine as the EVO X. There are some differences cause the EVO X has a MIVEC head and the Genesis does not have that. If it does, its Hyundias own version. I haven't read anywhere that the Genesis has variable valve timing though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Great idea Hyundai had right their...WTF did they do to the design though? I don't mind the design....my only gripes are the odd double shoulder line and the rear window kink thing. Well, hopefully that will be possible shortly after GM launches the car in, what is it now? 2013? Anyone know if they ever got the interior tooling from the supplier? Last I read, they were still having issues. Hyundai is poising itself well for the post recession boom. There is a new Sonata on the way as well that looks serious. http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/27/spy-sho...or-coupe-route/ The new Sonata makes me think of the new Mazda6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Reynolds Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 Hyundai is poising itself well for the post recession boom. There is a new Sonata on the way as well that looks serious. http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/27/spy-sho...or-coupe-route/ So predictable at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted March 2, 2009 Author Share Posted March 2, 2009 Rental car companies Rejoice! A new Sonata will be flooding your fleets... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted March 2, 2009 Share Posted March 2, 2009 I think the Brembo's on the Cobra was simply Brembo pads. Was the rotors, actually. I don't think Brembo even makes pads. Of course, I think the twin pot PBR calipers Ford used on the 94-04 Cobras were more than adequate for all but racing scenarios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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