7Mary3 Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 I am hearing Ford is getting out of the industrial engine business. Quite a few Ford engines such as various 4 cylinders, the 4.2L V-6, some V-8's and even the Triton V-10 were being sold for gen. sets, air compressors, other construction and airfield equipment. No, Ford probably wasn't making a lot of money at that business, but they were in it since the Flathead days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 http://www.fordpowerproducts.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 I wonder if it will actually happen THIS TIME ! They have tried to exit this market 2 or 3 times before but every time stayed in because the costs are low and the profits are high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 (edited) Pity they couldn't find a cheap, easy to produce and durable I-6 for Gen sets.... Edited August 8, 2009 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battyr Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 Ford supplies cheap gasoline engines to a market that needs diesels. I would think that the EPA will demand more emission equipment on both gasoline and diesels. Does Ford spend the money on developing better emission for these markets, or just work on cars. Ford needs to discontinue many of their current engine sold into these markets. To stay in these markets they need to develop small diesel engines, fuel cells and batteries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 As you know, Ford has a whole range of small diesels. Fuel cells are a non-starter, as hydrogen is a problem, but possibly direct-alcohol fuel cells might work; they are used as power-packs for small fork-lifts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battyr Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 (edited) As you know, Ford has a whole range of small diesels. Fuel cells are a non-starter, as hydrogen is a problem, but possibly direct-alcohol fuel cells might work; they are used as power-packs for small fork-lifts. Ford has small high-tech automotive engines. The industrial market might want something different. They don't need the power to weight ratio of an automotive engine. They do need engine that can run continuously at full power for days at a time while producing the best efficiency. What I think I am saying is that there is a lot of companies that build small diesels. I was wonder if the EcoBoost could be a low cost alternative? I am thinking of 3 and 4 cylinder versions? Edited August 8, 2009 by battyr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted August 9, 2009 Author Share Posted August 9, 2009 http://www.fordpowerproducts.com/ That website has not been updated since April of '05. I herad from an OEM user of Ford industrial engines that Ford has stopped shipping and is not taking orders. I wonder if it is true or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue II Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 As you know, Ford has a whole range of small diesels. Fuel cells are a non-starter, as hydrogen is a problem, but possibly direct-alcohol fuel cells might work; they are used as power-packs for small fork-lifts. The chief architect of Ford's hydrogen program has retired. Look for an industrial application of hydrogen fueled engines from a new company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted August 9, 2009 Share Posted August 9, 2009 That website has not been updated since April of '05. I herad from an OEM user of Ford industrial engines that Ford has stopped shipping and is not taking orders. I wonder if it is true or not. Site design is from the 'early Javascript' era of the internet. I'd say the overall design is 10 years old, give or take. I suppose the easy way to find out if they're still in business is by calling them. BTW: I posted that link as an FYI. Wouldn't surprise me at all if Ford's getting out of the business--at least on a 'walk-up' basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Pity they couldn't find a cheap, easy to produce and durable I-6 for Gen sets.... They did- the 300 six was bullet proof. I do believe most of the airport baggage cart tractors are still 300's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goinbroke2 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Who was the guy that retired from ford 2-3 years ago and bought the blueprints/rights to the 300? He's now making gen sets with both 300 sixes and a 3 cyl version. Tried googling it but can't find it. The company (internet site) had green as the company colour. (like ford is blue) Gas/propane/lng I was on there about 2 years ago researching an engine for a guys project truck I was helping with.(wanted propane with turbo 300) I'll keep looking.....bullpup? mule? crap, something like that..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 (edited) They did- the 300 six was bullet proof. I do believe most of the airport baggage cart tractors are still 300's. Bob, the Falcon I-6 has been looked at as an industrial engine for the past few years. It's now as torquey as the old 300 and boasts both PFI gasoline and Liquid Injected Propane set ups. Ford's fast track to China Edited August 10, 2009 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Bob, the Falcon I-6 has been looked at as an industrial engine for the past few years.It's now as torquey as the old 300 and boasts both PFI gasoline and Liquid Injected Propane set ups. Ford's fast track to China Now that is OHC and what size? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Now that is OHC and what size? 4.0 litre DOHC, 4-Valve, Dual-VCT. 260 hp @6000 and 291 lb ft @3500 It has the 250's original 3.91" stroke so it gives heaps of bottom end torque. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7Mary3 Posted August 11, 2009 Author Share Posted August 11, 2009 Who was the guy that retired from ford 2-3 years ago and bought the blueprints/rights to the 300? He's now making gen sets with both 300 sixes and a 3 cyl version. Tried googling it but can't find it. The company (internet site) had green as the company colour. (like ford is blue) Gas/propane/lng I was on there about 2 years ago researching an engine for a guys project truck I was helping with.(wanted propane with turbo 300) I'll keep looking.....bullpup? mule? crap, something like that..... Oxx? You talking about these guys?: http://www.hydrogenenginecenter.com/aspx/p...ts/engines.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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