Mark B. Morrow Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/polit...sex.scandal.cnn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Republican. Democrat. Politician. The third word trumps the first two in pretty much making him a scumbag anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 Republican. Democrat. Politician. The third word trumps the first two in pretty much making him a scumbag anyway. touche...do as I say not as I do, I am above the law BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted September 10, 2009 Author Share Posted September 10, 2009 Republican. Democrat. Politician. The third word trumps the first two in pretty much making him a scumbag anyway. True, but you don't get that many Democrats running on the whole "Family Values" issue. This is the same guy who has been active in opposing Gay Marriage because it would damage the institution of marriage. Did the gays make him want to spank his mistress? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napfirst Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 True, but you don't get that many Democrats running on the whole "Family Values" issue. This is the same guy who has been active in opposing Gay Marriage because it would damage the institution of marriage. Did the gays make him want to spank his mistress? The guy did the right thing and resigned......maybe we should hunt him down and flog him in public..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted September 10, 2009 Share Posted September 10, 2009 (edited) True, but you don't get that many Democrats running on the whole "Family Values" issue. This is the same guy who has been active in opposing Gay Marriage because it would damage the institution of marriage. Did the gays make him want to spank his mistress? Anyone who thinks enforcing any sort of "Family Values" should be a role of the government is a little suspect to begin with. And well, the left does run on a sort of "family values" platform. They just call it different things like "pro-choice", "gay rights", etc. Edited September 10, 2009 by NickF1011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len_A Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Anyone who thinks enforcing any sort of "Family Values" should be a role of the government is a little suspect to begin with. And well, the left does run on a sort of "family values" platform. They just call it different things like "pro-choice", "gay rights", etc.I'm not certain that you can equate civil rights issues with the the right wing's "family values" politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 True, but you don't get that many Democrats running on the whole "Family Values" issue. This is the same guy who has been active in opposing Gay Marriage because it would damage the institution of marriage. Did the gays make him want to spank his mistress? You're so partisan :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted September 11, 2009 Author Share Posted September 11, 2009 You're so partisan :rolleyes: Not so much. Anti-hypocrite would be a better definition. If a politician, any politician is going to lecture on the sanctity of marriage as support for denying marriage rights to those who want to exercise them, then I expect said politician won't cheat on his wife with two mistresses. I have no forgiveness for those who need to talk about how important their marriage vows are in public while breaking them in private. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang84isu Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 What is it with Republicans and sex scandals and affairs? There was Governor Sanford who flew off to Argentina to meet up with a mistress back in June, and a day before Senator Ensign of Nevada admitted to an affair with a campaign staffer. And Paul Stanley in July. Not to mention all the child pornography and escort / prostitution cover-ups. Then there are the homosexual scandals, which was ironic because many of the Republicans caught were some of the most vocal against homosexuality. The Democrats have had their share of high-profile scandals (Clinton and Edwards), but the Republicans get egg on their face even worse considering they're supposed to be the party of morals and conservative values. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 What is it with Republicans and sex scandals and affairs? There was Governor Sanford who flew off to Argentina to meet up with a mistress back in June, and a day before Senator Ensign of Nevada admitted to an affair with a campaign staffer. And Paul Stanley in July. Not to mention all the child pornography and escort / prostitution cover-ups. Then there are the homosexual scandals, which was ironic because many of the Republicans caught were some of the most vocal against homosexuality. The Democrats have had their share of high-profile scandals (Clinton and Edwards), but the Republicans get egg on their face even worse considering they're supposed to be the party of morals and conservative values. Homophobia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Fear Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 What is it with Republicans and sex scandals and affairs? There was Governor Sanford who flew off to Argentina to meet up with a mistress back in June, and a day before Senator Ensign of Nevada admitted to an affair with a campaign staffer. And Paul Stanley in July. Not to mention all the child pornography and escort / prostitution cover-ups. Then there are the homosexual scandals, which was ironic because many of the Republicans caught were some of the most vocal against homosexuality. The Democrats have had their share of high-profile scandals (Clinton and Edwards), but the Republicans get egg on their face even worse considering they're supposed to be the party of morals and conservative values. What about Warren Harding and John and Ted Kennedy? The list is long and dirty. Heck, Obama is supposed to have had something going on with a guy named Larry Sinclair. There's a book about that and you can check it out on Youtube. I really don't trust anyone in Washington. It doesn't matter which party you support. What is the point? I'm sure there are more we may never know about. You can point the finger all day long, but what good does that accomplish........I think we have more important things to worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grbeck Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 (edited) What is it with Republicans and sex scandals and affairs? There was Governor Sanford who flew off to Argentina to meet up with a mistress back in June, and a day before Senator Ensign of Nevada admitted to an affair with a campaign staffer. And Paul Stanley in July. Not to mention all the child pornography and escort / prostitution cover-ups. Then there are the homosexual scandals, which was ironic because many of the Republicans caught were some of the most vocal against homosexuality. The Democrats have had their share of high-profile scandals (Clinton and Edwards), but the Republicans get egg on their face even worse considering they're supposed to be the party of morals and conservative values. The same problem that Democrats have with people who don't pay their taxes (Rep. Charles Rangel in Congress; within the White House, it's hard to keep track), or are just plain corrupt (Senator Chris Dodd; Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich). Even though Democrats advocate higher taxes for everyone else (it's easy, I guess, when you won't be paying them yourself) and like to pretend that they are only in government service for noble reasons. Apparently, the definition of "noble reasons" has been expanded to include "lining your own pockets", "avoiding laws that you advocate", and "getting friends and relatives jobs, whether they deserve one or not". And please note that Democrats have had their problems with sex. There was the U.S. representative who was having gay sex with an underage page (the late Rep. Gerry Studds from Massachusetts) and a current senator who was allowing a gay escort service to be operated from his house in Washington, D.C. (Senator Barney Frank). And before anyone squawks about "homophobia," please note that sex with a minor is illegal even if both participants are of the same sex, and prostitution is illegal in Washington, D.C. The outrage response of Democrats was to...keep re-electing these two solons to Congress. And I seem to recall a certain Democratic president who rode into office at least partly on a wave or feminist anger over the Anita Hill hearings, and was happy to accept the support of those who wanted to broaden the definition of sexual harrassment to include ANY relationship between a subordinate and a supervisor, and who said that ALL charges by ANY woman were to be taken at face value. Of course, when he was caught being serviced by a female intern, and was accused of sexual misconduct by two women, the response of Democrats was to...rally the troops and circle the wagons. Edited September 11, 2009 by grbeck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grbeck Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 What about Warren Harding and John and Ted Kennedy? Warren Harding was a Republican. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 I'm not certain that you can equate civil rights issues with the the right wing's "family values" politics. Sure you can. Many to the far right would claim that some of those supposed "civil rights" infringe upon traditional American values. I'm not one of those, but it could be argued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Fear Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Warren Harding was a Republican. Re-read my post. I said I didn't think it mattered what party you support, the list is long and dirty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napfirst Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Not so much. Anti-hypocrite would be a better definition. If a politician, any politician is going to lecture on the sanctity of marriage as support for denying marriage rights to those who want to exercise them, then I expect said politician won't cheat on his wife with two mistresses. I have no forgiveness for those who need to talk about how important their marriage vows are in public while breaking them in private. So you're anti-hypocrite?....that's very interesting......I don't recall your comments on how hypocritical it was for geithner to be Treasury Secretary and he himself was an add admitted tax cheat.....I must have missed that rant.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len_A Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 Sure you can. Many to the far right would claim that some of those supposed "civil rights" infringe upon traditional American values. I'm not one of those, but it could be argued. And that's why plenty of otherwise fiscally conservative Americans list themselves as "independents". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted September 11, 2009 Share Posted September 11, 2009 And that's why plenty of otherwise fiscally conservative Americans list themselves as "independents". You can put me in that group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang84isu Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 Homophobia? Who, me or the politicians I was referencing? I'm for gay marriage and believe that homosexuality is due to genetics, not choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len_A Posted September 12, 2009 Share Posted September 12, 2009 And that's why plenty of otherwise fiscally conservative Americans list themselves as "independents". You can put me in that group. Same here for the most part. Pretty much one of the reasons that I wasn't even considering the GOP last election, and depending on who rises to the top, may not consider them again. the far right and their conservative religious allies put far too much emphasis on their morality plays for my taste, and far too much intrusion into personal lives, especially for a group of people who otherwise promote the idea of less government. I think that's why the incident that is the topic of this thread stand out so much, as well as making their call for less government look hypocritical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macattak1 Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Who, me or the politicians I was referencing? I'm for gay marriage and believe that homosexuality is due to genetics, not choice. However, just remember there is no science to back up that position. Peace and Blessings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 However, just remember there is no science to back up that position. While the cause hasn't been specifically determined, scanning brain structure and brain operation has shown definite structural differences, and differences in operation. There may be more than one cause. We will know much more in 5-10 years. Intelligence and Perspective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang84isu Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 However, just remember there is no science to back up that position. Peace and Blessings You sure about that? http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/...80628205430.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len_A Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 You sure about that? http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/...80628205430.htm The far right and their conservative religious allies will never admit to the possibilities of genetics being the factor that determines sexual orientation, lest it torpedoes the reason behind their morality plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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