bobbyd Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Maybe I'm too much into Ford, but seriously, how did these so-called 50 Journalists come to deciding the Korean Hyundai Elantra is the best car over the Focus. Do they road test the vehicles for performance, handling and braking? Or was it based on the bad press Focus got for the transmission reflashing? The Elantra is so plastic inside...cheaper materials. Wait...I think I have a possible reason...keyword "Cheap". The Elantra is cheaper than the Focus. Is that it? They never mentioned in today"s paper how they arrived at the winner? I'm perplexed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosetang Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Well they also gave ToTY to Evoque, which while nice is super expensive and not a truck, so w/e. Popularity contests, no more relevant now than in High School. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds91776 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I've test driven both the Elantra and Focus within a day of each other. I couldn't fault anyone who bought an Elantra or Focus. They are both excellent products. While the Focus is a higher-tech car that handles better...the Elantra is a better people mover with a more comfortable interior...at least in my opinion. I think the judges did a good job. All three finalists deserved the award. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ds91776 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I think people get bent out of shape when awards, etc simply things using words like CAR or TRUCK. In today's world "Car" means any sedan, coupe, hatchback, wagon, or convertible...and sometimes Minivans. "Truck" means Pickup Truck, Van, SUV, CUV, and sometimes Minivan. It is pretty simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTwannabe Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 What's wrong with cheap? Consumers shopping for econoboxes with the lowest payment possible are often less concerned about soft-touch materials and optional infotainment systems. Ford couldn't compete with the Koreans on price, so they went up-market. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnV Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 MSNBC This articles explains that the Focus lost because of the auto transmission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettech Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Maybe I'm too much into Ford, but seriously, how did these so-called 50 Journalists come to deciding the Korean Hyundai Elantra is the best car over the Focus. Do they road test the vehicles for performance, handling and braking? Or was it based on the bad press Focus got for the transmission reflashing? The Elantra is so plastic inside...cheaper materials. Wait...I think I have a possible reason...keyword "Cheap". The Elantra is cheaper than the Focus. Is that it? They never mentioned in today"s paper how they arrived at the winner? I'm perplexed. Many of the 50 are from the Detroit area and work at the newspapers, automobile magazines and automobile TV shows. AutoLine Daily had 4 of the judges on this week... and they thought it would be the VW. But they all agreed that the Focus transmission was an issue. Additionally, they where all very impressed with the Hyundai... http://www.autoline.tv/show/1601 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHorse Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) MSNBC This articles explains that the Focus lost because of the auto transmission. They might need to consider replacing that thing with a conventional automatic. Edited January 9, 2012 by BlackHorse 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) The Focus had a buggy launch, countless reviews were not uniformly praise-worthy of the Focus and for good reason. I'm not surprised at all and predicted this outcome. Ford screwed up and they have some damage control to do and hopefully they'll get it right when it's time to put the Fusion on the pedestal. Edited January 9, 2012 by BORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneekr Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 While the fifth generation (codename MD) Elantra is a worthy contender for the award, wasn't it introduced in Model Year 2011? Did it miss some date cutoff for the 2011 poll? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Reynolds Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 NM the fact that there has been a signifigant software revision for the Focus' Powershift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
630land Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 The Focus had a buggy launch, countless reviews were not uniformly praise-worthy of the Focus and for good reason. I'm not surprised at all and predicted this outcome. Ford screwed up and they have some damage control to do and hopefully they'll get it right when it's time to put the Fusion on the pedestal. "COTY" awards are forgotten in days. And 'buggy' is not true. No new Focuses have left people stranded. Too many MFT users expecting to learn to use it in 5 minutes, without reading manual, so they say it's "junk". Honda Civic has had a worse launch of its new compact. Gas rpices went down, and suddenly "Oh lets get an SUV, now" happens. And, since Focus is not being dumped into fleets, the sales #'s are more realistic. Let Hyundai, Toyota and Kia dump into fleets and have low resale value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneekr Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Too many MFT users expecting to learn to use it in 5 minutes, without reading manual, so they say it's "junk". Honda Civic has had a worse launch of its new compact. Gas rpices went down, and suddenly "Oh lets get an SUV, now" happens. And, since Focus is not being dumped into fleets, the sales #'s are more realistic. Let Hyundai, Toyota and Kia dump into fleets and have low resale value. MFT isn't "junk" because of the user manual or to whatever extent customers read it or don't read it. It's "junk" - the initial release anyway- due to the cluttered UI, languid control response, and poor error handling among other deficiencies. Also, the Elantra has a higher predicted residual value (per ALG) than the Focus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxcomet Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 The Elantra appears nice but the proof is after the miles begin to pile up. BTW, the latest on my sonata is a check engine light, a continued buggy tire pressure warning system and front end noise. The base warranty has now expired (64K) and I just can't wait to see how my friendly neighborhood hyundai dealer is gonna stick it to me for out of warranty repairs. :gang: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 When this question came up in the competition forum a few months ago, I said I thought the Elantra and Evoke would win. I can read the auto journalists' minds... (Or what little they show sometimes.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyd Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 Wow...great responses from everyone. Lets hope the new Fusion doesn't have any issues...! I think it looks great...but so does the Focus. Lets hope people get over the transmission issue. They need to NOT raise the price at all, since these competitors are selling more for less. Go Ford! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHorse Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) "COTY" awards are forgotten in days. And 'buggy' is not true. No new Focuses have left people stranded. Too many MFT users expecting to learn to use it in 5 minutes, without reading manual, so they say it's "junk". Honda Civic has had a worse launch of its new compact. Gas rpices went down, and suddenly "Oh lets get an SUV, now" happens. And, since Focus is not being dumped into fleets, the sales #'s are more realistic. Let Hyundai, Toyota and Kia dump into fleets and have low resale value. Not ture at all. I've personally read accounts on another forum of people with a brand new Focus that came out to their car and it wouldn't start. It's not a great many by any means, but it's not zero either as you just ascerted. As for your contention on the MFT that it's just stupid users I suggest you check these out. http://www.youtube.com/user/mercmilan06#p/u/10/NNhXCgfp-BY And he had the Titanium. Makes me glad I only had the SE with no MFT. Edited January 9, 2012 by BlackHorse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 http://www.youtube.c.../10/NNhXCgfp-BY And he had the Titanium. Makes me glad I only had the SE with no MFT. Can this dude have a more annoying voice? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Can this dude have a more annoying voice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHorse Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Can this dude have a more annoying voice? It doesn't matter what his voice sounds like. The video clearly demonstrates that the problems with MFT are not just a bunch of "stupid customers who don't understand it and won't read their owners manual" as has been suggested around here plenty of times. This man obviously knew what the system was supposed to be doing and it wasn't working properly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 You just reminded me of how hot Erin Grey was in the early 1980s :D I wasn't even a teenager yet... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHorse Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 You just reminded me of how hot Erin Grey was in the early 1980s :D I wasn't even a teenager yet... Yeah, but she didn't have anything on Linda Carter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Yeah, but she didn't have anything on Linda Carter. Not a big brunette fan...like them with lighter hair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Yeah, but she didn't have anything on Linda Carter. I agree with you about Wonder Woman! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHorse Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I like brunettes or blondes or redheads. A good looking woman is a good looking woman no matter what. But between Linda Carter and Erin Gray I'd give the nod to Linda. Both were beautiful women though. Anyway, we strayed off topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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