twintornados Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Ford Focus #1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 PS: Guess that puts F-Series sales in perspective.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZanatWork Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I'd love the Corolla to fall from that spot. Boring vehicles that win sales competitions make me ill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4d4evr-1 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 and the Fiesta is #5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Good Stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted December 22, 2012 Author Share Posted December 22, 2012 It would seem that "One Ford" is working well for the FoMoCo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante hicks Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Didn't the Focus have this title in the years that it was first introduced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Historically it was the Escort year after year, then the Focus was, its really not news, its been consecutively the same thing with the Corolla coming up right after. As more of the Chinese market opens up the battle will continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Harbinger Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I feel obliged to point out that this is still just a projection, obviously. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted December 23, 2012 Author Share Posted December 23, 2012 The point is, Ford makes a truly world class automobile and it is notable that the car is a sales success globally. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmm55 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Historically it was the Escort year after year, then the Focus was, its really not news, its been consecutively the same thing with the Corolla coming up right after. As more of the Chinese market opens up the battle will continue. The Chinease are not real fond of Japan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted December 25, 2012 Author Share Posted December 25, 2012 The Chinease are not real fond of Japan! But they are Fonda Jane..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 The Chinease are not real fond of Japan! I wouldn't count too much on that. There used to be a lot of Americans who were none too fond of Japan, but that didn't stop the Japanese manufacturers from becoming a force in the American market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker16 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I wouldn't count too much on that. There used to be a lot of Americans who were none too fond of Japan, but that didn't stop the Japanese manufacturers from becoming a force in the American market. ever heard of THE RAPE OF NANKING. there is alot of bad blood between both cultures.nevermind the issues of those islands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 ever heard of THE RAPE OF NANKING. there is alot of bad blood between both cultures.nevermind the issues of those islands. Yes, I've heard of the Rape of Nanking. Perhaps you missed THE BATAAN DEATH MARCH or PEARL HARBOR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Yes, I've heard of the Rape of Nanking. Perhaps you missed THE BATAAN DEATH MARCH or PEARL HARBOR? I didn't want to go there ladies and gentlemen. Here, we Colonials supported the Brits in Hong Kong, Singapore, Burma and Ceylon (Sri Lanka). That said the Sino-Japanese War 31-45 was pretty close if not over the top in destruction it was compared to the much-lauded Eastern Front. Sorry, it makes Battan and Pearl Harbor (with much respect to the veterans) a skirmish by comparison. I'm not familiar why this current row is happening so forgive my ignorance. This does come up still from time to time and it's a very sour issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 (edited) I'm not familiar why this current row is happening so forgive my ignorance. My point is not that anyone's experiences are worse than anyone else's, it's that yesterday's hatred has little to do with today's buying habits. When I was younger, I knew lots of people who "wouldn't buy no damned Jap crap" specifically because of Pearl Harbor, Bataan, and so forth, but there are very few of them left, and they're growing fewer all the time--and some of them have actually purchased Japanese cars. (F'rinstance, my mother's uncle flew PBYs in the South Pacific, and as late as the '80s he wouldn't even have considered a Japanese car, but the last car he bought for my mother's aunt was a brand-new '07-ish Nissan.) I'm also not saying that the Japanese car makers are going to go like gangbusters in China the same way they have here--just don't count on any supposed hatred to suppress the market for their vehicles. Governments have disputes over territory, but it's people who buy the cars, and in a population of 1.5 billion people, I'm sure there's a significant number of car buyers who'll draw no more of connection between Tiyoda and the Rape of Nanking than most American car buyers do between them and Pearl or Bataan. Now, Mitsubishi, on the other hand... Edited December 27, 2012 by SoonerLS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 I'm sure there's a significant number of car buyers who'll draw no more of connection between Tiyoda and the Rape of Nanking than most American car buyers do between them and Pearl or Bataan. Now, Mitsubishi, on the other hand... Now, I'm not too sure I agree with the Chinese buyers and connection with history you stated. Based upon the historical evidence I stated before. I haven't seen any import dealerships torched in NA lately but perhaps that's passe. It appears burning 'Sacred Publications' is the hip thing now for some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Now, I'm not too sure I agree with the Chinese buyers and connection with history you stated. Based upon the historical evidence I stated before. Oh, I know there are quite a few who are still hopping mad at Japan (heck, the Koreans are still PO'd at them, too), but in 1.5 billion people, there are bound to be quite a lot of them who'll ignore it, and it seems to me that the more educated and affluent (the ones most likely to buy a car in the first place) are the most likely to be in that group. Remember, if just 1% does fall into that category, that's still 15 million people... I haven't seen any import dealerships torched in NA lately but perhaps that's passe. That's reserved for Hummer dealerships in Kahleefohneeya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 and it seems to me that the more educated and affluent (the ones most likely to buy a car in the first place) That's reserved for Hummer dealerships in Kahleefohneeya. If they want to follow our trends, it seems to me the 'educated and affluent' will kick up a fuss and hope others will riot over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Back to topic, I want a Focus ST w/ ST3 package and Performance Blue. I want to add to the numbers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker16 Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 (edited) Yes, I've heard of the Rape of Nanking. Perhaps you missed THE BATAAN DEATH MARCH or PEARL HARBOR? there is no comparison between the two.The Nanking Massacre or Nanjing Massacre, also known as the Rape of Nanking, was a mass murder and war rape that occurred during the six-week period following the Japanese capture of the city of Nanking (Nanjing), the former capital of the Republic of China, on December 13, 1937 during the Second Sino-Japanese War. During this period, hundreds of thousands of Chinese civilians and disarmed soldiers were murdered by soldiers of the Imperial Japanese Army.[1][2] Widespread rape and looting also occurred.[3][4] Historians and witnesses have estimated that 250,000 to 300,000 people were killed.[5] Several of the key perpetrators of the atrocities, at the time labelled as war crimes, were later tried and found guilty at the Nanjing War Crimes Tribunal, and were subsequently executed. Another key perpetrator, Prince Asaka, a member of the Imperial Family, escaped prosecution by having earlier been granted immunity by the Allies. Edited December 27, 2012 by Biker16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Japanese manufacturers held 23% of the Chinese car market before that territorial dispute flared up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 Blah, blah, blah You completely missed the point, so OK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker16 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 You completely missed the point, soOK I usually do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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