New light & medium duty news

[Bob Rosadini 980]

5 minutes ago, SoonerLS said:

I meant the part about the badge being deleted to facilitate the wrap.

Got it..by the way as these things are now put on with adhesive I guess if you were to take it off you would have to scrub old stuff off before  you could put new one on.  I also see a lot emergency 450/550s around here that are clearly diesels but no badge

[Joe771476 185]

Saturday 9-16-2023, 10 AM EDT from Hartford CT to Exit 73 eastbound I-84: In about 20 miles and a 20 minute time span, I observed around 120 medium duty white Freightliner bucket trucks heading west. I also observed one F750. I also observed about 20 F-series light duty bucket trucks. Where were they coming from or going to is beyond me! I could have understood if they were heading east toward the New England coast while Hurricane Lee was approaching, but they weren't! I was watching a Modern marvels episode about the creation of the Interstate Highway system and caught a peek of some footage of late 50's/early 60's Ford tandem axle Class 8 dump trucks on the job.

[7Mary3 472]

This is interesting, and we will likely be seeing it happen more often:

 

https://www.isuzucv.com/en/news/headlines

[Bob Rosadini 980]

On 9/17/2023 at 5:56 PM, Joe771476 said:

Saturday 9-16-2023, 10 AM EDT from Hartford CT to Exit 73 eastbound I-84: In about 20 miles and a 20 minute time span, I observed around 120 medium duty white Freightliner bucket trucks heading west. I also observed one F750. I also observed about 20 F-series light duty bucket trucks. Where were they coming from or going to is beyond me! I could have understood if they were heading east toward the New England coast while Hurricane Lee was approaching, but they weren't! I was watching a Modern marvels episode about the creation of the Interstate Highway system and caught a peek of some footage of late 50's/early 60's Ford tandem axle Class 8 dump trucks on the job.

My guess Joe is they were going home.  The big storm we were supposed to get tracked to the east..did not turn out to be the monster they thought it was.  I had to go to a memorial service on Cape Sat AM and when I went by the rest area along the canal at Boiurne, there were  about 6 or 7 tree service buckets parked.  Waiting for the "call".  didn't happen.

[Bob Rosadini 980]

6 hours ago, 7Mary3 said:

This is interesting, and we will likely be seeing it happen more often:

 

https://www.isuzucv.com/en/news/headlines

 

Yes and exactly what the CARB loons want.

[7Mary3 472]

16 hours ago, Bob Rosadini said:

 

Yes and exactly what the CARB loons want.

 

You can bet your last dollar that the EPA will eventually adopt the same standards nationwide, sooner rather than later.  Of course the new CARB standards will be adopted immediately by the other CARB states, so these new NOX standards are well on their way to nation wide adoption anyway.  From what I understand, new standards are going to be hard for diesels to comply to, particularly medium duty.  Could be good for Ford and Isuzu, however.     

[Bob Rosadini 980]

On 9/4/2023 at 11:28 PM, 7Mary3 said:

Still no news on the F-650 and 750.  Ordering is closed for the 2024 MY, nothing on a 2025 MY.  Any dealer people have any information?  Might hear more as UAW negotiations continue.

Here is some news....Go to Ford.com, commercial trucks ,and open 650/750, then specifications. Lists air brakes across the board..650/750, gas or diesel.  Not true.  Still a "forward year projection.  Unless of course, the CARB ruling brings then to their senses and if they want to sell many 650/750's in CA, lack of air option may be a deal breaker.

 

Here in Northeast, heavy 750's were used by many utilities in the Cautillan/Blue Diamond era as heavy line/bucket/polecat trucks.  Never see the OAP trucks now..all FL and Navistar.

Surprisingly Paccar hasn't made a move there.

[7Mary3 472]

4 hours ago, Bob Rosadini said:

Here in Northeast, heavy 750's were used by many utilities in the Cautillan/Blue Diamond era as heavy line/bucket/polecat trucks.  Never see the OAP trucks now..all FL and Navistar.

Surprisingly Paccar hasn't made a move there.

 

I suspect it's because of the transmission.  No Allison in the OAP trucks.  I think the Torq-Shift transmissions are limited when it comes to P.T.O.'s.  We had 'Blue Diamonds' with the 3000 World transmissions in them.  But really, I don't think Ford cares about the specialized vocational end of the class 6 and 7 market.  

[Bob Rosadini 980]

On 9/21/2023 at 1:33 AM, 7Mary3 said:

 

I suspect it's because of the transmission.  No Allison in the OAP trucks.  I think the Torq-Shift transmissions are limited when it comes to P.T.O.'s.  We had 'Blue Diamonds' with the 3000 World transmissions in them.  But really, I don't think Ford cares about the specialized vocational end of the class 6 and 7 market.  

 

That too but  I  still say there are plenty of vocational buyers in CA-and Oregon-who want a conventional class 6/7 but as they are forced to go with gas, will still want air brakes...my broken record speach...like the contractor who uses a 6-8 yd dump and pulls a loader back hoe or the tree guy who pulls a big tracked skid steer etc etc.  How many class 6/7 trucks are registered in California?  Probably more than in the 6 New England states combined I would guess.