Langston Hughes Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 The ad was condemned by the Republican National Committee and a former Republican Senator from Maine (William Cohen), and was pulled after one day. The original article appeared here: http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2013/04/the-southern-strategy-debunked-again.php And, yes, this is a conservative blog, but he cites research by others to make his point, and this research is supported by facts and figures. Hmmmm, there was no southern strategy in the 70's and 80's right? And the ad was denounced by who again? But Ken Mehlman, chairman of the Republican National Committee, said Tuesday that he saw nothing wrong with the ad . “After the comments by Mr. Corker and former Sen. Cohen, I looked at the ad, and I don’t agree with that characterization of it,” Mehlman told NBC’s Washington bureau chief, Tim Russert, in an interview as part of MSNBC-TV’s daylong Battleground America report. “I think that there is nothing more repugnant in our society than people who try to divide Americans along racial lines, and I would denounce any ad that I thought did,” said Mehlman, who addressed the NAACP last year, apologizing for the Republican Party’s race-tinged “Southern strategy” during the 1970s and ’80s. The only thing that got debunked is your comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 The problem isn't likely from current workers, but the legacy costs of retired workers. The tax base isn't there to support them, anymore. The legacy problem was caused in great part by underfunding of the pensions. Detroit's problems are not unique to towns that were tied to a single industry. Many Texas towns went through much the same issues in the oil bust and Pittsburgh had to reinvent itself when big steel collapsed in the '80s. Pittsburgh is still working through its underfunded pension problem and has been under the supervision of a financial oversight board for years. Detroit's situation was compounded by corrupt government leadership elected by the people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal50 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Detroit's situation was compounded by corrupt government leadership elected by the people. Similar to our federal government current day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 The legacy problem was caused in great part by underfunding of the pensions. Detroit's problems are not unique to towns that were tied to a single industry. Many Texas towns went through much the same issues in the oil bust and Pittsburgh had to reinvent itself when big steel collapsed in the '80s. Pittsburgh is still working through its underfunded pension problem and has been under the supervision of a financial oversight board for years. Detroit's situation was compounded by corrupt government leadership elected by the people. No argument from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langston Hughes Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Similar to our federal government current day. Bush is out of office and Romney didn't win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Bush is out of office and Romney didn't win. Oh yeah. That Obama administration is just rosy. Nothing to see here! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Bush is out of office and Romney didn't win. You're channeling me, now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grbeck Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 (edited) Hmmmm, there was no southern strategy in the 70's and 80's right? And the ad was denounced by who again? The only thing that got debunked is your comments. The article proved that the GOP was making inroads in the South while Nixon was still in grade school, and his operatives probably weren't even born yet. Mehlman's comments - which, I might add, reflect his opinions as opposed to the facts - don't "debunk" that proven fact. Edited July 25, 2013 by grbeck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grbeck Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 (edited) The legacy problem was caused in great part by underfunding of the pensions...Detroit's situation was compounded by corrupt government leadership elected by the people. It's not just underfunding...it's overpromising benefits and pay, which is easy to do, because the bill generally comes due when the people who actually made the promises are long gone. I've been to both Pittsburgh and Detroit, and there is no comparison between the state of the two cities. Pittsburgh actually seems like it is on the upswing. There is no reason that Detroit couldn't be experiencing a similar rebirth right now, except for the quality of its elected local government. Edited July 25, 2013 by grbeck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest General Mattis Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Bush is out of office and Romney didn't win. When Langston can't keep up with intelligent conversation, he opens the Liberal handbook; Step 1) Yell racism Step 2) Blame Bush Step 3) Repeat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langston Hughes Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 When Langston can't keep up with intelligent conversation, he opens the Liberal handbook; Step 1) Yell racism Step 2) Blame Bush Step 3) Repeat I didn't blame Bush. Go back and read the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest General Mattis Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 I didn't blame Bush. Go back and read the post. Sure, sure. You brought those two names up for what reason then? What could George W. Bush and Mitt Romney have to do with a city that has been run by Democrats for decades that has gone belly up? It's sad that you're not even smart enough to see how you are getting played 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langston Hughes Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Did you read the post? It was directed at a comment outside of the discussion of Detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bored of Pisteon Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 (edited) At least there is some gold plating. Your posts are just turds. Coleman! Kwame did reach out for outside investment and tried to continue Archer's theme while also lining his pockets. Coleman was a race baiter and only lined his pockets. I bet if I sprinkled one of those turds with coconut all over it, put it in a plastic wrapper labeled "organic". You'd eat it wouldn't you? But at least you can agree that Coleman started the downfall...Kruggerands, Chief Hart scandal, his illegitimate son scandal and the branding of two police officers "racist murderers" for trying to arrest someone who refused to open his hand because he was high on crack and died of an overdose! Coleman's a P.O.S., always was and always will be. Edited July 27, 2013 by Bored of Pisteon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langston Hughes Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I bet if I sprinkled one of those turds with coconut all over it, put it in a plastic wrapper labeled "organic". You'd eat it wouldn't you? But at least you can agree that Coleman started the downfall...Kruggerands, Chief Hart scandal, his illegitimate son scandal and the branding of two police officers "racist murderers" for trying to arrest someone who refused to open his hand because he was high on crack and died of an overdose! Coleman's a P.O.S., always was and always will be. Correction. I agree that Coleman accelerated the downfall, but the downfall of Detroit started 30 years before Coleman was elected. Did you not know that Cobo and Mirani left Detroit with a 28 million dollar budget gap in 1962? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest General Mattis Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Did you read the post? It was directed at a comment outside of the discussion of Detroit. Sure, sure. You brought those two names up for what reason then? What could George W. Bush and Mitt Romney have to do with a city that has been run by Democrats for decades that has gone belly up? It's sad that you're not even smart enough to see how you are getting played Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Correction. I agree that Coleman accelerated the downfall, but the downfall of Detroit started 30 years before Coleman was elected. Did you not know that Cobo and Mirani left Detroit with a 28 million dollar budget gap in 1962? ..and instead of addressing this, the democrats continued to ignore these problems and attempted to fix the unfix-able....in short, BOTH parties share the blame of the demise of Detroit...I thank God daily that I am now a proudly "moderate independent" .....one that doesn't necessarily demand smaller government for smaller governments sake, but instead...I desire a government that is intelligent and works to solve problems...real problems, not problems "blown up" due to misconceptions over legal opinions of laws that are on the books... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) Avalanche of City Debt Downgrades and Eventual Bankruptcies Coming Up; Numerous Cities Bankrupt Over Pension Promises Edited July 28, 2013 by fmccap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Correction. I agree that Coleman accelerated the downfall, but the downfall of Detroit started 30 years before Coleman was elected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langston Hughes Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Sure, sure. You brought those two names up for what reason then? What could George W. Bush and Mitt Romney have to do with a city that has been run by Democrats for decades that has gone belly up? It's sad that you're not even smart enough to see how you are getting played the same as Cal50's comments about the sitting president. Nothing. It's sad that your such a bigoted POS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langston Hughes Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 ..and instead of addressing this, the democrats continued to ignore these problems and attempted to fix the unfix-able....in short, BOTH parties share the blame of the demise of Detroit...I thank God daily that I am now a proudly "moderate independent" .....one that doesn't necessarily demand smaller government for smaller governments sake, but instead...I desire a government that is intelligent and works to solve problems...real problems, not problems "blown up" due to misconceptions over legal opinions of laws that are on the books... these people were not elected as Democrats but as individuals. The candidates have ranged from socialist to fairly blue dog and even some conservatives thrown in. I think most of us want something similar, it's just what we think are real problems are different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 the same as Cal50's comments about the sitting president. Nothing. It's sad that your such a bigoted POS. Nick must be off-duty today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerM Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Detroit Looks to Health Law to Ease Costs As Detroit enters the federal bankruptcy process, the city is proposing a controversial plan for paring some of the $5.7 billion it owes in retiree health costs: pushing many of those too young to qualify for Medicare out of city-run coverage and into the new insurance markets that will soon be operating under the Obama health care law. --more at link-- I'm assuming most of those affected will not object, since most probably voted for Obama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napfirst Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Here's another city that has been historically run by democrats that's heading into the tank....... City of Chicago’s cash cushion plummets, debt triples, arrests drop, water use rises http://suntimes.com/21552920-761/city-of-chicagos-cash-cushion-plummets-debt-triples-arrests-drop-water-use-rises.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langston Hughes Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Nick must be off-duty today. Yeah, he's probably playing with those kids your glad he doesn't have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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