littlecountry Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 It has nothing to do with attendance, it has to do with poor marketing strategy by Ford and the dropping of oil prices. And the UNION can't do a damn thing about it. It also doesn't help having almost a 90 day supply either. You can get a Fusion for not much more or same price as Focus, people go for the Fusion, Focus is overpriced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hee haw Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Well that's interesting. I bet it goes by seniority and the bottom 100 get laid off How else should it go? Favorites, or alphabetical? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmsford Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 How else should it go? Favorites, or alphabetical? LOL!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 17, 2015 Author Share Posted April 17, 2015 How else should it go? Favorites, or alphabetical?Yeah, I was speaking from emotion and it was pretty damn stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
focusfrank Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 400 are supposed to go to Livonia, if they (Livonia) don't post that right away and waits THEN 500 will be laid off. When Livonia finally does post their openings, then 400 off of that lay off list will be called for those open positions, still leaving 100 without a job, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one of a kind Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 So Livonia get high seniority again. That's why they need to take plant seniority Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
focusfrank Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 So Livonia get high seniority again. That's why they need to take plant seniority If Livonia posts their openings right away then ONLY tier 1 will be able to bid on those positions. If they don't post them right away and wait then those who are laid off which would be tier 2 will get called for those positions when they become available whenever that might be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one of a kind Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) Bs they will just poast our jobs later and any ILO will back fill Edited April 18, 2015 by one of a kind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
focusfrank Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 I'm just telling you what I've heard. what Livonia does will play a major part in the future of those who are tier 2, if I were tier 2 I wouldn't count on anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 400 are supposed to go to Livonia, if they (Livonia) don't post that right away and waits THEN 500 will be laid off. When Livonia finally does post their openings, then 400 off of that lay off list will be called for those open positions, still leaving 100 without a job, If they post for Livonia, you wil be at MAP, cause high seniority will sign up for those gravy jobs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 18, 2015 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 There's LTS at both DTP and FRAP that tier 2 can bump. That's what my committeeman told me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
focusfrank Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 There's LTS at both DTP and FRAP that tier 2 can bump. That's what my committeeman told me True and both those plants are options but after all is said and done, 100 will be laid off. 500 if Livonia doesn't post right away but out of that 500, 400 people will eventually be called to Livonia still leaving 100 without a job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted April 18, 2015 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 My point was that those 100 will likely end up at either DTP or FRAP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmsford Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 If Livonia posts their openings right away then ONLY tier 1 will be able to bid on those positions. If they don't post them right away and wait then those who are laid off which would be tier 2 will get called for those positions when they become available whenever that might be. Sterling and Rawsonville will have first dibs on any postings to any plant including the Livonia postings. All tier 1 at Sterling and Rawsonville are classified as supplemental which means they get first choice for any postings. So chances are after any of the tier 1 post out of them plants some of the laid off MAP employees could end up at one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
focusfrank Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 My point was that those 100 will likely end up at either DTP or FRAP From what I was told there will be 100 that won't make the cut and will be laid off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one of a kind Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Hell Livonia will take the last 100 that might the only way we get tier 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
182 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Gravy jobs my ass. Everything will be 4 Crew. Meaning you are working every other weekend. So all you carpetbaggers at MAP, if you want to work 4 Crew come to join the fun at Livonia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
182 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 And Livonia isnt going to need anyone for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassisgroupleader Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Will transfer costs be covered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
focusfrank Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Gravy jobs my ass. Everything will be 4 Crew. Meaning you are working every other weekend. So all you carpetbaggers at MAP, if you want to work 4 Crew come to join the fun at Livonia. With all of the GRAVY JOBS there are at Livonia I'll take working every other weekend BRING ON THAT GRAVY!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one of a kind Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 All I have to say is plant seniority. Sterling and rawsonville are being forced out that's different you guys are volunteering.... plant seniority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Gravy jobs my ass. Everything will be 4 Crew. Meaning you are working every other weekend. So all you carpetbaggers at MAP, if you want to work 4 Crew come to join the fun at Livonia. Try working every weekend like the ones at MAP on C-Crew, actually working! Gravy job working every other weekend sounds better! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axle72 Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 No comparison assembly plant work to parts plant work hats off to the assembly guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmsford Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 No comparison assembly plant work to parts plant work hats off to the assembly guys Aww cmon bro you know slangin shafts in 73 on the roughers or even the visitrol for that matter was some pretty rough work. Shit sometimes we would have to be there til lunch lol!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTP'er Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 Stupid is as stupid does ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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