twintornados Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 (edited) Autoweek article, only question remains is how this impacts Fords' deal to provide engines...I would presume badly...unless Ford will be building the new engine for Land Rover....EDIT: Reading the news release, I came across this: The state-of-the-art Engine Manufacturing Centre near Wolverhampton is the first new plant that Jaguar Land Rover has built from the ground up. The site represents an investment of more than £500 million and will create almost 1400 new jobs by the time the plant reaches full capacity. Here is the press release from J/LR about the line.... PS: Someone get T-Stag and mlhm5 on the horn....STAT!! Their prayers have both been answered in one fell swoop!!! Edited May 2, 2015 by twintornados 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Wasn't the plan always for them to use Ford engines during the changeover and them bed phased out over time? JLR is already starting to use their Ingenium line of engines too, replacing the EcoBoost motors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullynd Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Yeah, I assume the switchover was planned all along, just like Ford had to buy engines from BMW for a while when it first bought Land Rover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Yeah exactly, so I don't think it's really impacting anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 (edited) Notice how all the growth for J/LR is coming in smaller less costly vehicles, now they have been forced to spend more money making a dedicated engine plant. Let's see how well they go managing their own costs for a product cycle or two... Edited May 2, 2015 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Notice how all the growth for J/LR is coming in smaller less costly vehicles, now they have been forced to spend more money making a dedicated engine plant. Let's see how well they go managing their own costs for a product cycle or two... Well, that really seems to be the trend for all luxury brands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 (edited) Well, that really seems to be the trend for all luxury brands But those other brands have much deeper pockets and more mid range sales globally, I think that's the big difference with J/LR, the revenue base is comparatively much smaller. I know that they have to do this but it is risky due to the increased volumes to maintain ROI. Edited May 2, 2015 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 How much of these engines are being shared with other Tata vehicles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron W. Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Hmmm diesel powered Tatas, what a concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) How much of these engines are being shared with other Tata vehicles? From the J/LR press release: "These lightweight blocks share the same bore, stroke, cylinder spacing and 500cc cylinder capacity. This helps give Ingenium the configurability and flexibility around which smaller or larger engines can quickly and efficiently be developed to meet future regulatory and competitive requirements." Hmmm diesel powered Tatas, what a concept. They will be available as "petrol" (aka, gasoline) powered versions as well. From the same press release: "Ingenium's modular design enables both petrol and diesel engines to share many common internal components and calibration strategies. This reduces complexity, raises quality and simplifies manufacturing, and allows Jaguar Land Rover to react more quickly to changes in global demand." It looks like Jaguar and Land Rover learned as much from Ford as Ford learned from them under the Ford umbrella of brands. Edited May 5, 2015 by twintornados 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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