Anthony Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) I have a 2014 Focus hatch. Just hit 31k miles and my rear brakes are squeaking and grinding. Ok, so 30k isn't that horrible to be replacing brakes...only problem is they were also replaced at 20k miles. (replaced at the dealer with Motorcraft brake pads) I'm not paying hundreds to have Ford do this again, so I ordered my own brake pads and will be replacing them myself. I ordered these as they came recommended by other Focus owners. Anyone else eat brakes (specifically rear disc brakes) like candy on the MK3 Focus? Edited February 9, 2017 by Anthony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) Does the Focus have electronic rear brakes or is it hydraulic? I'd check myself but my wife isn't home and she has the new car. I've heard of gen 3 Fusions having this problem due to the electronic rear brakes malfunctioning. And 30k is awful for brakes unless you do a lot of binary driving which I doubt you do. Should be able to get at least 50 out of them, likely more from the rear since there's less load put on them. Edited February 9, 2017 by fuzzymoomoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 Does the Focus have electronic rear brakes or is it hydraulic? I'd check myself but my wife isn't home and she has the new car. I've heard of gen 3 Fusions having this problem due to the electronic rear brakes malfunctioning. And 30k is awful for brakes unless you do a lot of binary driving which I doubt you do. Should be able to get at least 50 out of them, likely more from the rear since there's less load put on them. I only drive with one foot. . I do drive city-style driving a lot (a good number of stop signs)...but not a ridiculous amount. I've never had a car eat brakes so quickly. Especially rear brakes. As for elec vs hydraulic, pretty sure they are hydraulic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 There's also the possibility that the dealer may not have actually done the brake job back at 20k miles (through mistake or malice) and now the originals are finally wearing down. I'd say that's an outlier of a case. But is there anyway of identifying if the brake pads are factory or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 There's also the possibility that the dealer may not have actually done the brake job back at 20k miles (through mistake or malice) and now the originals are finally wearing down. I'd say that's an outlier of a case. But is there anyway of identifying if the brake pads are factory or not? I don't think so. Factory ones may have the blue oval logo on them but I have no idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 How are your front ones wearing? Are the rears doing most of the stopping? Friend had a truck that needed the front breaks bled because the rears were applying most of the stopping power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) First generation Fusion would also go through rear brake pads VERY quickly.My only advice is use PREMIUM ceramic brake pads. Wagner Thermo Quiet are good. Raybestos EHT1095H Enhanced Hybrid Technology include "retraction" springs.I also recommend drilling the caliper slide pin hole oversized by 1/64" or 1/32" OR buy reman calipers WITH brackets and all hardware. Too much lube on the pins will actually cause a hydraulic lock that will result in brake drag. Make sure to clean all parts of the caliper where the pad touches until they are shiny and then apply lube. Edited February 9, 2017 by theoldwizard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 First generation Fusion would also go through rear brake pads VERY quickly. My only advice is use PREMIUM ceramic brake pads. Wagner Thermo Quiet are good. Raybestos EHT1095H Enhanced Hybrid Technology include "retraction" springs. I also recommend drilling the caliper slide pin hole oversized by 1/64" or 1/32" OR buy reman calipers WITH brackets and all hardware. Too much lube on the pins will actually cause a hydraulic lock that will result in brake drag. Make sure to clean all parts of the caliper where the pad touches until they are shiny and then apply lube. Yup, Wagner Thermo Quiet are the ones I ordered. Hopefully I get more than 10k out of them. Thanks for the input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 How are your front ones wearing? Are the rears doing most of the stopping? Friend had a truck that needed the front breaks bled because the rears were applying most of the stopping power. Fronts seem fine (have taken anything apart and looked). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 I might add, even though brakes aren't covered, this finally gave me the nudge to finally buy a 7 year 100k warranty from Flood Ford. Only $880 for Premium Care! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Yup, Wagner Thermo Quiet are the ones I ordered. Hopefully I get more than 10k out of them. Post a follow up when they wear out ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKII Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) As per Ford Europe MK3 Focus spec sheet "Dual circuit, diagonally split, hydraulically operated front and rear. Vacuum servo assisted with four-channel ABS and electronic brake distribution (EBD)" Edited February 10, 2017 by MKII 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 How are your front ones wearing? Are the rears doing most of the stopping? Friend had a truck that needed the front breaks bled because the rears were applying most of the stopping power. . Oh Pioneer.... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 . Oh Pioneer.... My #1 pet peeve. I have to save that picture. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) My #1 pet peeve. I have to save that picture. . Since Pioneer is a automotive guy....maybe it was a "smart" phone trying to correct a perceived misspelled word?? I hope so....I smirk when I see the break vs brake thing....lol Edited February 10, 2017 by twintornados Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 I usually give a pass the first time due to autocorrect, but if you use it twice then I have to assume it was intentional and then much sarcasm ensues...... The other one is "would of" instead of would've. Is it asking too much for an adult to be able to spell words learned in elementary/middle school? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) I usually give a pass the first time due to autocorrect, but if you use it twice then I have to assume it was intentional and then much sarcasm ensues...... The other one is "would of" instead of would've. Is it asking too much for an adult to be able to spell words learned in elementary/middle school? . Yes, you expect two much.... Edited February 10, 2017 by twintornados 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 . Since Pioneer is a automotive guy....maybe it was a "smart" phone trying to correct a perceived misspelled word?? I hope so....I smirk when I see the break vs brake thing....lol Sorry. I would assume it was autocorrect since I know the difference and try to use the correct one. Just got a new phone because I dropped my old one and didn't realise it was set to automatically substitute words for what it thought I wanted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted February 17, 2017 Author Share Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) Well, I decided to bring the car to the dealership and let them take a look and see if they could find anything wrong with the brakes as to why they are wearing so fast in the rears before I changed the pads.Nada. They couldn't find anything wrong (calipers working fine...etc...) They said it must be how I drive. All my previous cars (same commute) only got brakes every 30k-40k miles, so that kinda shoots that theory out the window.They are putting new brakes on all around (I'll just save the Thermo-Quiets for next time). If this car needs brakes again in 9-10k miles I am really going to consider getting rid of it. Amongst the other issues I've already had since I bought it, I'm getting to know the service department a little too well at this point. It is a bummer because I like the car, but the issues are getting to be a bit much. Edited February 17, 2017 by Anthony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 At least your Bluetooth is functioning properly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerLS Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 AdvanceTrac used to drastically increase the wear on the rear brakes due to its use of differential braking to control yaw and perform traction control functions, but I think that was mostly on the RWD/AWD vehicles--I know my LS went through rear brakes faster than any other 4-wheel disc vehicle I've driven (and I've put lots of miles on several), but I don't think they went faster than the fronts. Your Focus isn't AWD is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Daughter's Focus needed rear brakes first but not until around 68K miles when the pad backing metal started digging into the rotors. And no, don't ask me why she waited that long to tell me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted February 17, 2017 Author Share Posted February 17, 2017 At least your Bluetooth is functioning properly True dat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted February 17, 2017 Author Share Posted February 17, 2017 Your Focus isn't AWD is it? Nope, only the RS is AWD (and I'd put up with it for that!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKX1960 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 . Since Pioneer is a automotive guy....maybe it was a "smart" phone trying to correct a perceived misspelled word?? I hope so....I smirk when I see the break vs brake thing....lol While we're being so fussy, "is a automotive guy" isn't correct grammar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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