Denao_53 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 7 hours ago, ice-capades said: I posted the notice in the Scheduling Notes earlier this morning. Unfortunately, I don't understand the scheduling process. One thing I think I understand and please correct me if I'm wrong is, dealers submit an order on Thursday and on Friday, those orders, (if commodities are available) are selected and submitted. So does the message above mean, no Super Duty's will be scheduled this Thursday/Friday and now nothing will happen until next week? I wish I knew more about the whole scheduling and allocations. My dealer said they only have one SD for this month. Are dealers only allotted Super Duty's or anything else for that matter, once a month? Last I knew there are 7 trucks in front of me but if the dealer is only getting one or two a month, this could take forever. Already going on nearly 6 months. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasFordman18 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 19 minutes ago, TexasFordman18 said: Is this for real????? The scheduling notes stated as of Jan 20 no more superdutys will be scheduled???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasFordman18 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 16 minutes ago, Forderorder said: Is what for real? I saw some post about AS of Jan 20 (today) that no more super dutys will be scheduled?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasFordman18 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, TexasFordman18 said: I saw some post about AS of Jan 20 (today) that no more super dutys will be scheduled?? Just wondering if my order from Jan 3, 2022 , confirmed by Ford, will actaully be scheduled or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 35 minutes ago, TexasFordman18 said: The scheduling notes stated as of Jan 20 no more superdutys will be scheduled???? THIS WEEK they won’t be scheduled. NEXT WEEK they will probably resume scheduling. It’s a weekly thing. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 37 minutes ago, Denao_53 said: Unfortunately, I don't understand the scheduling process. One thing I think I understand and please correct me if I'm wrong is, dealers submit an order on Thursday and on Friday, those orders, (if commodities are available) are selected and submitted. So does the message above mean, no Super Duty's will be scheduled this Thursday/Friday and now nothing will happen until next week? I wish I knew more about the whole scheduling and allocations. My dealer said they only have one SD for this month. Are dealers only allotted Super Duty's or anything else for that matter, once a month? Last I knew there are 7 trucks in front of me but if the dealer is only getting one or two a month, this could take forever. Already going on nearly 6 months. Thanks Dealers submit orders every day. Every Thursday Ford selects the vehicles they’re going to build in the next production period which is a few weeks away. There is an explanation somewhere you should read. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasFordman18 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 20 minutes ago, akirby said: THIS WEEK they won’t be scheduled. NEXT WEEK they will probably resume scheduling. It’s a weekly thing. Thank you for clarifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Denao_53 said: Unfortunately, I don't understand the scheduling process. One thing I think I understand and please correct me if I'm wrong is, dealers submit an order on Thursday and on Friday, those orders, (if commodities are available) are selected and submitted. So does the message above mean, no Super Duty's will be scheduled this Thursday/Friday and now nothing will happen until next week? I wish I knew more about the whole scheduling and allocations. My dealer said they only have one SD for this month. Are dealers only allotted Super Duty's or anything else for that matter, once a month? Last I knew there are 7 trucks in front of me but if the dealer is only getting one or two a month, this could take forever. Already going on nearly 6 months. Thanks Dealers can submit orders on any day but scheduling is normally done on Thursday's each week subject to allocation and commodity restraints, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forderorder Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 10 hours ago, benpack61 said: Previously it was stated that COVP orders can be scheduled outside of the normal Thursday scheduling: Quote Scheduling is normally done on Thursday but verified COVP (Customer Order Verification Program) orders with incremental allocation and priority scheduling can be scheduled at any time. So will COVP orders be scheduled between now and next Thursday? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manko Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 16 minutes ago, Forderorder said: So will COVP orders be scheduled between now and next Thursday? They can be. But doesn't necessarily mean they will be scheduled between now and next Thursday. There was one week in December where people got scheduled on Tuesday and Thursday of the same week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forderorder Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, manko said: They can be. Cool, just wondering if when Ford says "Thursday" they mean Thursday only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardvark666 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, ice-capades said: There is no Dealer Invoice until just before the vehicle goes into production but the pricing, including X Plan, is available when the order is placed. I'm not sure why you think that an X Plan order takes away from the Dealer's allocation and would count as a lost sale. If the allocation is used for an X Plan order doesn't matter because the allocation is then used. The exception is if the X Plan order was scheduled using COVP incremental allocation, in which case it doesn't matter because the order is still scheduled. Dealers are not required to accept X Plan. The X Plan commission is less than selling the vehicle at MSRP, but the dealership still earns a healthy profit with the Ford commission and establishes a relationship with the customer, etc. It’s a lost sale because I’m not buying the truck, meaning I’m going to another dealership. If dealer A says that they won’t sell me a truck under xplan and I go to dealer B who does, doesn’t that mean that dealer A just lost a sale? My point is that they aren’t losing a stock truck to me. They are just not completing a sale. Unless you are saying that Ford it takes away from the total number of trucks that a dealer is allowed to have. My order is a COVP order. I was told by the mods on this forum that they don’t take away from dealer allotment. Edited January 20, 2022 by ardvark666 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordySumthin Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Apologies if asked and previously answered as this thread is huge and sort of all over the map, newbie here. Getting conflicting info on admin fees when reading ‘How the plan works’ FAQ’s: The answer to question 21 reads, “…customers using the X-Plan Program do not pay dealer admin fees, which may be an additional cost on alternative price points.” Then question 24 states: ….”dealers permitted to to assess up to $100 in doc fees(state dependent)…..“ “How does this change the $275 admin fee? -There is no change. The $275 admin fee covers the cost of managing the New Vehicle Purchase Program.” So is the $275 Admin fee applicable, or not under the X-Plan? TIA. Learned a ton on this site in 24 hours since joining. Will be purchasing my third Ford truck in a row in about a month. Wished I would’ve joined years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardvark666 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 According to the Kirby the 275 is built into the xplan price. The 100 you are referring to is what they might charge as “dealer admin fees”. They can only charge you 100 bucks. The 1695 destination fee is not negotiable and any dmv fees are also allowed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordySumthin Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, ardvark666 said: According to the Kirby the 275 is built into the xplan price. The 100 you are referring to is what they might charge as “dealer admin fees”. They can only charge you 100 bucks. The 1695 destination fee is not negotiable and any dmv fees are also allowed. Thank you Ardvark666 for the quick response. For clarity, I won’t actually see the $275 as a line item on the factory invoice or AXZD Plan Pricing Agreement, it’s simply built in? Or if I do see it, it would be included and not more than the X-Plan Price? EDIT: answer confirmed. just generated a PIN and it states $275 admin is included in x-plan price(this amount should not be added to x-plan price). Edited January 20, 2022 by FordySumthin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim58 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 23 minutes ago, FordySumthin said: Apologies if asked and previously answered as this thread is huge and sort of all over the map, newbie here. Getting conflicting info on admin fees when reading ‘How the plan works’ FAQ’s: The answer to question 21 reads, “…customers using the X-Plan Program do not pay dealer admin fees, which may be an additional cost on alternative price points.” Then question 24 states: ….”dealers permitted to to assess up to $100 in doc fees(state dependent)…..“ “How does this change the $275 admin fee? -There is no change. The $275 admin fee covers the cost of managing the New Vehicle Purchase Program.” So is the $275 Admin fee applicable, or not under the X-Plan? TIA. Learned a ton on this site in 24 hours since joining. Will be purchasing my third Ford truck in a row in about a month. Wished I would’ve joined years ago. https://www.fordpartner.com/partnerweb/jsp/howitworks/fordpartner_rules.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenD19 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 8 hours ago, RoncoSD said: What did your build look like? Did you have any of the major commodity stops? None of the commodity holds. Would like to have gotten the spray in and 5th wpp but they were showing up on the list when I ordered so I passed on those. Will get spray in when I get truck. F250 XLT CCSB 7.3L 3.55 Iconic Silver Add ons: FX4 Upfitters Remote Start Front Console carpet delete all weather mats bed mat platform running boards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourCrazies Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Greeting all! New to BOF so I thought I'd come in guns hot with a request for some thoughts, which hopefully only slightly annoys the old salty farts? Ordered a '22 F350 PLAT 7.3 CCLB on 6 December w/ single commodity restraint; 5th wheel prep. In COVP; only received confirmation email from Big Blue. On Monday I received in the mail a 3K rebate that my dealership said they'd honor. Expiration date 4 APR 22. Thoughts on keeping or dropping commodity restraint in hopes delivery (Minnesota) takes place before expiration. Thoughts? V/R, FourCrazies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forderorder Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 30 minutes ago, FourCrazies said: On Monday I received in the mail a 3K rebate that my dealership said they'd honor. Expiration date 4 APR 22. Thoughts on keeping or dropping commodity restraint in hopes delivery (Minnesota) takes place before expiration. Does it say "Place order or take delivery by Apr 4"? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourCrazies Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 25 minutes ago, Forderorder said: Does it say "Place order or take delivery by Apr 4"? Says “place order or take new retail delivery…”. Assuming since I’ve already placed an order (6Dec) before receiving the rebate (17Jan) that it’d only applies to take delivery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 21 minutes ago, FourCrazies said: Says “place order or take new retail delivery…”. Assuming since I’ve already placed an order (6Dec) before receiving the rebate (17Jan) that it’d only applies to take delivery? But you placed the order before Apr 4th so it should still apply. Ask the dealer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourCrazies Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 30 minutes ago, akirby said: But you placed the order before Apr 4th so it should still apply. Ask the dealer. Just spoke with them, must take delivery by 4 Apr. I’ll run that by Fords customer services folks tomorrow. If this is the case, what’s the groups thoughts on the likelihood of a 4 Apr arrival if I drop the 5th? Was told it’d be $1800 if the dealership did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggerzh Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 got an email from F 20 min ago saying my production date was moved from feb 28 to feb 21. it was scheduled last thursday on 28th while everyone else was getting 21st. f250 lariat 6.7 none of the hold items Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue6 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Order placed on 1/8 no email from ford, but confirmed with dealer, order in scheduled for 2/28. I have a VIN#. a pretty basic lariat with the 7.3 & 3.55 e locker. Value package, power steps, skids, upgraded tires, carpet delete, upfitter switch’s and heated steering wheel. I was told 4 months when I ordered and that’s the the reality I have set for myself regardless of this early schedule date. If it goes longer oh well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasFordman18 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Wo! Ordered 1/8 and already got a vin .. impressive 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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