GRF493 Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 After a two hour trip out of state, we unloaded the vehicle, then I went to a local gas station and refueled. 30 minutes later, I attempted to take my wife to dinner, only to discover our Navigator wouldn't start. DEAD. The vehicle unlocks and locks without any problems. The green light on the engine start button is illuminated and the instrument cluster initially illuminates just enough to show you the mileage and then the dashboard completely blacks out. At first the remote start would work but now it no longer does. Even with remote starting the dashboard display the instructions say to put depress the brake pedal and put the vehicle in gear in order to drive but the transmission selection button was not responsive. Now the remote start feature no longer works. I'm very glad that I did not have this problem when we traveled out of state with a fully loaded vehicle (including our dog), thus being stranded out in a remote area, in the heat. Our Lincoln dealership informed me that they have several module code errors on their (service writer) computer for our vehicle. (Yet, I received no notifications on my phone app. Why have an app then?) The service writer told me the most concerning flag was the "Body Control Module, which controls all communication in the vehicle." (Maybe thats why I've also had connectivity issues with Apple Car Play?). The service writer tells me they need to have their tech take a deep dive look into the problem. So, I've elected to have Lincoln tow the vehicle to the dealership Monday morning, so I HOPEFULLY can obtain a loaner. We shall see what the outcome will be. Our 2008 Toyota Sequoia is far more reliable. Maybe its time to return to Toyota and get a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 Don’t rule out a bad battery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeluxeStang Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 2 hours ago, GRF493 said: After a two hour trip out of state, we unloaded the vehicle, then I went to a local gas station and refueled. 30 minutes later, I attempted to take my wife to dinner, only to discover our Navigator wouldn't start. DEAD. The vehicle unlocks and locks without any problems. The green light on the engine start button is illuminated and the instrument cluster initially illuminates just enough to show you the mileage and then the dashboard completely blacks out. At first the remote start would work but now it no longer does. Even with remote starting the dashboard display the instructions say to put depress the brake pedal and put the vehicle in gear in order to drive but the transmission selection button was not responsive. Now the remote start feature no longer works. I'm very glad that I did not have this problem when we traveled out of state with a fully loaded vehicle (including our dog), thus being stranded out in a remote area, in the heat. Our Lincoln dealership informed me that they have several module code errors on their (service writer) computer for our vehicle. (Yet, I received no notifications on my phone app. Why have an app then?) The service writer told me the most concerning flag was the "Body Control Module, which controls all communication in the vehicle." (Maybe thats why I've also had connectivity issues with Apple Car Play?). The service writer tells me they need to have their tech take a deep dive look into the problem. So, I've elected to have Lincoln tow the vehicle to the dealership Monday morning, so I HOPEFULLY can obtain a loaner. We shall see what the outcome will be. Our 2008 Toyota Sequoia is far more reliable. Maybe its time to return to Toyota and get a new one. As A Kirby said, there's a good chance the battery is just dead. From a reliability standpoint, Ford vs. Toyota, Ford's having more minor issues right now, Toyota is having more major issues. The new Sequoia you mentioned potentially buying has a garbage engine. There are stories of those, and the tundra's they're based on, blowing up motors left and right with only a few thousand miles on them. Toyota has issues overed a dozen recalls by this point, and still can't seem to fix whatever the issue is. Most are implying it's just a badly engineered and designed engine. They were having issues in their Lexus sedans at the time. I remember wondering if those engines couldn't stand up to grandma Sunday driving duty, I didn't know how they could possibly hold up in a truck or large suv. The answer is, they don't. Don't give up on your Lincoln yet, the grass isn't always greener. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multitask Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 Might as well buy a Yugo!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 6 hours ago, GRF493 said: ....maybe its time to return to Toyota and get a new one. Nobody is holding a gun to your head..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRF493 Posted September 8 Author Share Posted September 8 Dealership confirmed the battery is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 12 hours ago, GRF493 said: Dealership confirmed the battery is fine. Was that at the Toyota dealership? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dlcorbett Posted September 9 Share Posted September 9 On 9/8/2024 at 10:15 AM, GRF493 said: So, I've elected to have Lincoln tow the vehicle to the dealership Monday morning, so I HOPEFULLY can obtain a loaner. We shall see what the outcome will be. Our 2008 Toyota Sequoia is far more reliable. Maybe its time to return to Toyota and get a new one. I don't think its lincoln specific, every manufacturer has been having problems with their newer vehicles. It's pretty much luck of the draw. To echo your sentiment, my 09 nav has been wildly more reliable than my 20 nav, but I think that's more how much more modern the newer truck is, so it's too many electrical components that harder to diag. On the flip side, my dad had a 22 escalade, only has 12k miles on her but from my understanding he's never had an issue, though many gm owners been having fits with their 6.2l engines the past cpl years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRF493 Posted September 22 Author Share Posted September 22 Yes, the Lincoln dealership confirmed the battery is fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 11 hours ago, GRF493 said: Yes, the Lincoln dealership confirmed the battery is fine What were you doing there? Thought you said you were "going back to" a Toyota? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blwnsmoke Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 On 9/22/2024 at 7:52 PM, GRF493 said: Yes, the Lincoln dealership confirmed the battery is fine Update? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 Had same issue with Lincoln Navigator 2022. Disconnected the battery for 2 minutes car started no problem. Couple of days later got notification on my app "check 12V battery, that battery is not healthy enogh". When to dealer they found that one bank in dameged. replaced the battery. Problem solved! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRF493 Posted December 4 Author Share Posted December 4 On 9/8/2024 at 4:35 PM, GRF493 said: Dealership confirmed the battery is fine. *** UPDATE *** Dealership informed me that the "Body Control Module" controls all communication throughout the vehicle and had to be reprogrammed. Vehicle seems fine now. I asked what causes the BCM to fail. They couldn't give me an answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted Thursday at 01:54 PM Share Posted Thursday at 01:54 PM 17 hours ago, GRF493 said: *** UPDATE *** Dealership informed me that the "Body Control Module" controls all communication throughout the vehicle and had to be reprogrammed. Vehicle seems fine now. I asked what causes the BCM to fail. They couldn't give me an answer. Wait...what?!?! Thought you were going back to a Toyota? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisgb Posted Thursday at 02:26 PM Share Posted Thursday at 02:26 PM On 9/8/2024 at 1:00 PM, Multitask said: Might as well buy a Yugo!! Old 80's riddle: Why does a Yugo have a standard rear window defroster? So your friends can keep their hands warm while they push you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew L Posted Monday at 02:04 AM Share Posted Monday at 02:04 AM On 12/5/2024 at 9:26 AM, Chrisgb said: Old 80's riddle: Why does a Yugo have a standard rear window defroster? So your friends can keep their hands warm while they push you! My dad had a business partner he worked with a lot in the 80s and he told my dad all the time he was going to buy 2 Yugos one for each foot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multitask Posted Monday at 04:53 PM Share Posted Monday at 04:53 PM On 12/4/2024 at 12:26 PM, GRF493 said: *** UPDATE *** Dealership informed me that the "Body Control Module" controls all communication throughout the vehicle and had to be reprogrammed. Vehicle seems fine now. I asked what causes the BCM to fail. They couldn't give me an answer. Humans are not perfect, so anything they make is also not perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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