LincolnFan Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Any rumors on the chassis? timeline? is it going to replace the MKS? engines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 (edited) http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleD...22263&vf=26 According to this, it will be built on the Mustang platform. This flys in the face of all the speculation of a Aussie Ford coming to NA (For now at least). There have been rumors and speculation of: a) The Aussie "Orion" (E8), B) A Streched Mustang (D2C) and; c) A Five Hundred RWD (E) platforms. Hey, whatever works, just get it to market ASAP. Edited December 15, 2006 by Hugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 While the concept car may be built off the current Mustang platform, there is nothing saying that a production model would be. They can change that out if interest for the car is high. Didn't they change the "Fairlane" platform from concept vs production?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnFan Posted December 15, 2006 Author Share Posted December 15, 2006 The article says that the Lincoln concept has no connection with Aussie at all. Is Ford going to introduce the Lincoln coupe? There's also this question that has been bugging me, is there anyone here who can confirm that the D2C is NOT a flexible platform? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsaylor Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 (edited) There's also this question that has been bugging me, is there anyone here who can confirm that the D2C is NOT a flexible platform? Those who argue that D2C is not flexible drive me crazy. D2C employs most of DEW98's front frame structure and DEW98's basic floorpan setup and tranny tunnel design. D2C is also a more rigid structure than is DEW98. Given that rigidity is a key component of how flexible a platform is in terms of length, and that the floorpan design is another key component.... well given the fact that DEW98 was designed to be flexible and that D2C improves upon those areas relative to DEW98.... I think the D2C naysayers are about to eat a whole lot of crow. Edited December 15, 2006 by jlsaylor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igor Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Ford confirmed that it will introduce a FORD RWD sedan concept based on the mustang - this makes it very likely, that the Aussie Ford was correct and that the Lincoln concept will also be built on the Mustang D2C platform. Igor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 . D2C employs most of DEW98's front frame structure and DEW98's basic floorpan setup and tranny tunnel design. The tranny tunnel is entirely different. That was one of the main obstacles of adapting the DEW98 for the Mustang. The manual tranmissions would NOT fit in the DEW98 transmission tunnel. Everything else is pretty spot on though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomcat68 Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 The tranny tunnel is entirely different. That was one of the main obstacles of adapting the DEW98 for the Mustang. The manual tranmissions would NOT fit in the DEW98 transmission tunnel. Everything else is pretty spot on though. The Lincoln LS did have a manual transmission when it first came out. Only the 6cyl models had it. Do yoiu mean a v8/manual combo wouldn't fit? I don't know what a difference that would have made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSOLVER Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 So what if anything is the Orion supposed to underpin? I understood it was a quick fix for a RWD sedan? And we have crossovers blooming everywhere, in all shapes and sizes no? The Lincoln LS did have a manual transmission when it first came out. Only the 6cyl models had it. Do yoiu mean a v8/manual combo wouldn't fit? I don't know what a difference that would have made. I'm going to guess the TR-6060 for the big gun GT500 had something to do with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsaylor Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 The tranny tunnel is entirely different. That was one of the main obstacles of adapting the DEW98 for the Mustang. The manual tranmissions would NOT fit in the DEW98 transmission tunnel. Everything else is pretty spot on though. I wasn't aware of that, thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnFan Posted December 16, 2006 Author Share Posted December 16, 2006 That explains why there wasn't a Manual with the V8. The Mustang has a V8/Manu combination so that means they fixed the problem. Now what else is wrong with the D2C? It doesn't seem there's much problems with the D2C except the bean counters who cheapened the Mustang mechanically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemiman Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 That explains why there wasn't a Manual with the V8. The Mustang has a V8/Manu combination so that means they fixed the problem. Now what else is wrong with the D2C? It doesn't seem there's much problems with the D2C except the bean counters who cheapened the Mustang mechanically. So the Jag S-Type has no manual trans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 So the Jag S-Type has no manual trans? Only on the V6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnFan Posted December 16, 2006 Author Share Posted December 16, 2006 AWD? Ford seems to be obsessed with it these days. any info on AWD and D2C? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSFan00 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 So basically, Ford is resurrecting and updating the LS! Great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maffew Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 (edited) Edited December 22, 2006 by maffew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 More from Jalopnik: http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/concept-cars/...-net-223986.php I hate this grille! But the back half reminds me of the Aerobird-based Mark VII Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnFan Posted December 23, 2006 Author Share Posted December 23, 2006 (edited) Suicide doors? the rear doors are really small compared to the front ones. 5.3 on the V6... What kind of numbers is the boss going to pull? 4.4? Edited December 23, 2006 by LincolnFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsaylor Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Suicide doors? the rear doors are really small compared to the front ones. 5.3 on the V6... What kind of numbers is the boss going to pull? 4.4? Apparently it does employ suicide doors, but they aren't the RX8 style clamshells you may think them to be, but rather proper full-size rear doors. The fold in the magazine is giving the impression that the doors are shroter than they actually are. Get hold of an issue, push the pages flat against a table, and you'll see that the doors are indeed full size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SysEng Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 So basically, Ford is resurrecting and updating the LS! Great! The logic eludes me here. Doesn't Ford understand that the reason that Caddilac made a "comeback" is because they started putting cars on the road at mid range prices? If they want to drag out a LS replacement, thats fine, but its gonna have to list in the 25-32K range to get some traction... NOT 40K+. They might just as well strip a TC, use cloth seats, steel wheels, halogne 4beams instead of the HID 4beams, replace the upscale dash with the green VFD dash from the other "panthers" and otherwise just make it a Licoln version of the GrandMarquis LSE. Call it a Continental. Price it at the LSE point. Its gonna be made on the same line as the other "panthers" anyway, so cost is not an issue. I get it. Ford management just can't stand the idea that a stripped down idea from some guys on this forum will outsell all their "brain children" combined. No doubt... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSenstad Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 I think the MKZ starts out at 29,900 and is pretty nice. To get the price you want the next one would have to go to Mexico as well and I don't want that. I think the Town Car is in the 45-55,000 range so this one might fall in the middle, spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaZor Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 I think the MKZ starts out at 29,900 and is pretty nice. To get the price you want the next one would have to go to Mexico as well and I don't want that. I think the Town Car is in the 45-55,000 range so this one might fall in the middle, spot on. Exactly. The main reason people buy luxury cars is to draw attention - to stand out from the crowd - to make the statement that I am financially well-off (to put it nicely). Attention - that translates to all age demos, as the younger crowd is absolutely dying for attention. The middle aged demo wants everyone to know that they are successful and paid very well, thankyou. The huge boomer demo wants everyone to know that they are "well-off". It is VERY important to do a luxury car correctly - not inexpensively. For those that cannot afford a luxury car ( however covets one), sorry about that - but Lincoln must not make the same mistake as MB in trying to make a luxury car for everyone. It's not about amking a volume car, it's about profitability. Make it super reliable and the volume will follow accordingly as there are many people who can afford this bracket and there are many who can't afford a true luxury car -- so they will lease one -- so that everyone thinks that they can (afford a luxury car). Lincoln needs to re-establish itself as a luxury manufacturer with class leading styling, inside and out. This car is going to do that IMO. If you can only afford a MKZ - then buy one until you can afford the MKR. I live in a very upscale area of So Fla and I would be very surprised if Lincoln doesn't sell a huge numbers of this car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moby Vic Posted January 2, 2007 Share Posted January 2, 2007 The MKR looks like a reworked Navicross to me: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnFan Posted January 2, 2007 Author Share Posted January 2, 2007 For some reason, I could never like that concept. It's fugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMBoring25 Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 That grille: 1) Would look more at home on a 2009 Pontiac Tempest. 2) Has absolutely no coherence with any other Lincoln design I can recall. 3) Isn't even consistent internally. You have a break-line in the middle of the grille, yet you go about a third of the way up to the top of the grille from there to find the bottom of the headlights, and neither of those lines is continued anywhere else on the car. Huh? 4) Is going to give me nightmares tonight. ANYTHING else they could have done with that grille would have looked better. The rest...Uhhh...Isn't bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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