jcartwright99

That looks good, no shame in saying that. Now the new Tundra, I can't say that.

Hybrid is a lock for this car. I'm actually surprised that it didn't come in the current generation refresh. The real question is will it be 4 cylinder only or will they build a V8 version. AWD has been constantly brought up with the Mustang. We know with the S550 there were some experimental test cars. Just thinking out loud, I am wonder with hybrid/PHEV they've learned some new tricks and/or how to keep the weight down. There already is a 4 door mustang....it's called the Mach E Whatever happens with the generation, enjoy it. As this will be the last gen of dino burning stangs. Absolute end of an era.

I really hope he's not named Aaron. Do you know what his employee number is?

Haven’t we seen this story before? Start up ends up engineering great product for mass production. Fails to be able to mass produce said vehicle. Starting to wonder if Ford got a bit nervous and bought into Rivian. When they got behind the curtain, realized that they were farther ahead than they knew. When they pulled the carpet out from a Rivian collaboration, it told me they were satisfied where they were and didn’t want to have anything to do with the Rivian goat rodeo. I still believe in Rivian but am starting to believe more in the Lightning

Do we know when this will be revealed? Both the Maverick and NG Ranger are on the list. I’m kinda leaning toward NG Ranger especially if there is a hybrid with 4WD (which most have speculated).

There seem to be a lot of happy BS owners with that poor 1.5 in it. For every 1 Badlands BS, I see 9 BS's that are different trims.

What is this hybrid I4 you speak of? Without a doubt, it's not getting any current 4 cylinder hybrid that Ford has now. I was thinking the current 4 cylinder and a powerboost 2.7 hybrid. What makes you think they will go with a 4 cylinder hybrid?

The reservation system for the Bronco was exactly the wrong thing at the worst possible time. Fan flames for years about a new Bronco to garner interest. Start taking reservations when, truck isn't close to being production ready. Boom, here comes Covid and an awful roof supplier. Obviously, Ford couldn't predict the future and have any idea about Covid and all the havoc it would create. However, some of their decision making during this has been questionable to say the least. The demand for the Bronco is absolutely making it 1000 times worse. The time people have spent waiting just keeps growing and so do the complaints. Demand is making dealers greedy or become susceptible to market forces. Consumers ready and willing to pay 10k plus over sticker. No recourse for when a dealer makes an adjustment to a reservation holder. All of this just makes the Bronco a giant crap sandwich and black eye to Ford in the eyes of a lot of angry consumers.

Sorry to hear that and I would no doubt be ticked to the point of making a scene. Dealers going to dealer things though right now. To say dealers are absolutely taking advantage of this situation now to the extreme would be a massive understatement. As long as people keep paying 5k over sticker on most cars right now, they will keep doing it. The only thing you can do is never step foot in that dealership again, and tell your story folks looking to buy a Ford there. Hindsight is 20/20 but situations like yours and others like this have made me want everything in writing before I put an order in for any vehicle. Too many dealers are going back on their word right now, especially on the Bronco.

Not sure anyone posted this MY 2024 the Bronco will get a refresh. My guess it will get some new updates that the NG Ranger gets (Powerboost hybrid???). Autoblog

What trim did you get? I’ve only seen 1 Badlands out in the wild so that would be my guess that’s what you got.

Yes, people were overextending themselves well before the pandemic. Honestly, I think this is the same thing that is driving people to hoard everything right now, the fear of missing out. All you need to do is turn on your TV or go to you favorite website and get inundated with headlines to cause hysteria. Whether it be chips, ships waiting to offload their cargo, no truckers, lack of employees, rising wages, rising prices and no gifts for the holidays....etc. People are going mad to not "miss out" and paying through the nose. I'll give you an example of my friend. He bought a house in 2013 3 bed/2 bath in Howell for 175. Not a bad house but was built in the late 50's and virtually nothing had been done since then. In those 8 years he replaced the dry wall in the two upstairs bedrooms, replaced the roof, put new AC/furnace, and put up a fence. His house sold a month ago for 320. In 8 years, his house almost doubled and he maybe spent 35-40k on it. Now he's living in an apartment. Why because he had a deal to buy a house "in an up and coming" neighborhood in Detroit and then the VA appraiser scoffed at their asking pricing by about 100k. The flipper of said house bought the house for 80-100k, in March of 2020. Did a rehab on it which was decent but there are still a few issues. He was asking 520. VA appraiser said 400. Someone bought this house for 535k, overpaying 15k over asking to live 3 block away from an ATF office/station to keep an eye on all the crime in the area. I don't get it!

People are dumb. Taking a loan on dealer mark up doesn’t magically make it worth the money. If/when the chip shortage gets sorted out in 22/23 expect used car prices to tank and these folks be massively underwater on their loans. I always try to take care of my car like I’m going to drive the wheels off of it. I actually may if this dealership gouging continues. I understand the “supply and demand” dynamic but this is extreme. The thing is, when I do replace my Fusion the probability of me going to that dealership is close to zero.

Now I decided to take a look at one today. I didn’t drive it but sat in it. Nice space inside, plastic but not cheap looking. Interesting design. Sales guy was next to useless. “We are charging 5k over every car on the lot….unless you special order.” Alrighty then. He had no idea about Bronco Sport or Maverick specs. Also they weren’t honoring A/Z plan unless you special order it. If/when I decide to get rid of the Fusion it looks like it will be a totally different buying experience. I will be shopping around for sure.

Can't wait to start seeing these on the road. Overall most reviews sound pretty good. One thing I found interesting that I didn't know before, the 2.0 with 4k tow package gets a beefed up trans, upgraded engine cooling, trans cooler, and more aggressive gearing. Even if I wasn't going to tow, that would be the one I'd get.

TFL had a hands on review (no driving) of the different trims. I see the sweet spot being XLT hybrid, which is fairly nice for what it is. Anything over 33 would make me start to look at the Ranger. Especially if the NG Ranger gets a hybrid. I would assume 40k would get a respectably equipped NG Ranger hybrid (all speculation of course).

Here is one that I know a few on here know but most likely can’t say. What’s the powertrain(s)? Its been written that it at minimum gets the Explorer ST engine ( most likely a higher HP tune). However, fairly certain we saw a hybrid powertrain in a test vehicle. The Aviator GT powertrain would easily fit too. So the question becomes, ST or GT?

I really think it looks great. Not a vehicle for me a city dweller but it looks sharp.

Do you have a photo? Are you still under warranty? I assume so but you could drive a lot.

There is a shortage of rental cars since rental car companies decided to dump their fleets due to Covid last year. Over the summer in Chicago people were paying 200/day to rent a Corolla. My boss came to the office from NY and was told he was not to get a rental car. All uber/taxis/black cars would be expensed but not rentals. It's not like there is a surplus of cars for rental companies to restock. So here we are.

I expect only one of two things to happen here. The conclusion and penalty will be either a slap on the wrist or severe enough that it will spur a ton of class action lawsuits against Tesla. I don't think there will be any middle ground on this one. I for one am pushing for severe. Why you ask? Beta testing poor developed technology in production to cars sold to consumers, which could kill people, just so you can appease Wall Street investors. Also, selling it as one thing and then sneaking signatures in the final paper work to say that it isn't what we told you it was. The shadiness that Tesla runs behind in regards to safety and quality standard is ridiculous. They need to be taken to task just like every other automaker would. Refusing to cooperate or letting consumers speak to investigators, shows they have a ton to hide. There is so much money invested in Tesla right now, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they were paying people off to look the other way on this investigation. When it comes to this much money and folks impacted, nothing would surprise me.

Not me! Actually, I am surprised that Ford doesn't have GPS located in all of their preproduction trucks for a couple of reasons. 1. To keep track of any inside information that may be contained in the vehicle. 2. I would assume it would be a test bed for their fleet management service.

Honestly, this is one of the forums where I feel people don't argue so much. I mean sure, we have some "interesting" personalities here and sometimes people wake up on the wrong side of the bed but overall not too bad. Reddit/twitter can go south in an instant. Back to topic, it looks pretty close to the old two door super cab Ranger in size. The sides of the bed are higher. The white color and bed top/container are kinda throwing me off though.

To be fair, with the hard top problems with the Bronco and fires in the Escape hybrids, a catastrophic problem isn't out of the realm of possibilities.

The interior looks really good. Surprised as that is usually where they fail.