Honda recalls 200,000 Civics

[Biker16]

Honda recalls 200,000 Civics

 

Harry Stoffer

Automotive News

September 14, 2007 - 2:01 pm EST

 

 

 

WASHINGTON — American Honda Motor Co. is recalling more than 180,000 Honda Civic coupes and sedans built for the 2006-07 model years because their rear wheel bearings may fail.

 

Separately, dealers will install new brake light switches with protective coverings in about 20,000 Civic sedans and Civic Hybrids built for the 2006 model year.

 

In the larger recall, Honda told regulators that an improperly assembled O-ring on a wheel speed sensor housing allows water and road salt to reach the wheel bearing. In time, the bearing can loosen, overheat and fail.

 

Honda investigated after wheels came off two cars in Canada, according to documents filed with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Dealers are to inspect wheel speed sensors and bearings and replace those that are damaged, NHTSA said.

 

In the other recall, Honda told NHTSA that lubricant from the telescoping mechanism of the steering column causes some brake light switches to fail.

 

You may e-mail Harry Stoffer at hstoffer@crain.com

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Honda recalls 200,000 Civics

 

Harry Stoffer

Automotive News

September 14, 2007 - 2:01 pm EST

 

 

 

WASHINGTON — American Honda Motor Co. is recalling more than 180,000 Honda Civic coupes and sedans built for the 2006-07 model years because their rear wheel bearings may fail.

 

Separately, dealers will install new brake light switches with protective coverings in about 20,000 Civic sedans and Civic Hybrids built for the 2006 model year.

 

In the larger recall, Honda told regulators that an improperly assembled O-ring on a wheel speed sensor housing allows water and road salt to reach the wheel bearing. In time, the bearing can loosen, overheat and fail.

 

Honda investigated after wheels came off two cars in Canada, according to documents filed with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Dealers are to inspect wheel speed sensors and bearings and replace those that are damaged, NHTSA said.

 

In the other recall, Honda told NHTSA that lubricant from the telescoping mechanism of the steering column causes some brake light switches to fail.

 

You may e-mail Harry Stoffer at hstoffer@crain.com

 

 

Damn, the wheels falling off a new car? I'd say that warrants a recall.

[TomServo92]

http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums/index...showtopic=16535

[Rob052067]

Ya, saw a tiny blurb on that Civic recall in today's paper. But on tonite's local news, they only reported on a Chrysler recall of some 300k Jeeps... More of the same ol same ol with the media....

Edited September 16, 2007 by Rob052067

[ANTAUS]

I believe this is the 3rd recall on the Civic...

[ebritt]

This is the only place I heard about it, as usual........thanks liberal media!

[Biker16]

This is the only place I heard about it, as usual........thanks liberal media!

Hey I am liberal media?

 

It not just the liberals it is a perception thing.

[rmc523]

Ya, saw a tiny blurb on that Civic recall in today's paper. But on tonite's local news, they only reported on a Chrysler recall of some 300k Jeeps... More of the same ol same ol with the media....

 

If it were a Ford, it wouldve been the top story.

[ANTAUS]

I think conservatism is what would prevent that from hitting the media, "being cautious, discreet" according to Websters. While liberalism ithey define as "a theory in economics emphasizing individual freedom from restraint and usually based on free competition"....so if anything, US not knowing seems like a conservative approach which is what we are facing, whereas a liberal approach would have been one to report in a wider media.

[range]

I believe this is the 3rd recall on the Civic...

 

Honda wishes it was only 3 recalls.

 

There have actually been 9 recalls on the 2006 Civic and Hybrid Civic, 3 of which were minor.

 

The other 6 recalls are:

 

1) Wheels falling off

2) Accelerator pedal coming loose and throttle sticking

3) Frontal Air bag system problem

4) Rear or side windows separating/falling out

5) Steering column mechanism over-lubed causing brake light switch failure

6) Hybrid controller shorting out from people sitting in back seat

 

 

Of course no auto rag will ever add these recalls up and report this info.

[old_fairmont_wagon]

I actually did see a 15 second spot on my local news about the Civic recall. They said you should be getting something in the mail about the possibility of a wheel falling off.

[Sixt9coug]

all i heard on the news for the week this thread has been up is "an American automaker recalls thousands of vehicles". So yeah, the Chrysler recall was more newsworthy i guess.

[ANTAUS]

"an American Automakers"? Well gee, that could be Honda because they are sssooo Apple Pie here... :rolleyes:

[MGallun]

Honda wishes it was only 3 recalls.

 

There have actually been 9 recalls on the 2006 Civic and Hybrid Civic, 3 of which were minor.

 

The other 6 recalls are:

 

1) Wheels falling off

2) Accelerator pedal coming loose and throttle sticking

3) Frontal Air bag system problem

4) Rear or side windows separating/falling out

5) Steering column mechanism over-lubed causing brake light switch failure

6) Hybrid controller shorting out from people sitting in back seat

Of course no auto rag will ever add these recalls up and report this info.

 

hey, i wonder how many recalls are on my 2006 Ford Fusion?

[SVT_MAN]

Hey I am liberal media?

 

It not just the liberals it is a perception thing.

 

The majority of the media is liberal, so it's probably fair to blame it on the liberal media because that's what the media is. Internal polling inside the media reveals this. It's not a secret. Fox News is one of the few conservative news groups out there (and, no, I'm not putting them on a pedestal because they suck just as much as anybody else ...) Most media sucks. A ton of it is owned by Ted Turner. That probably has a lot to do with it.

 

 

Wikipedia isn't an authority by any means, but I've read this other places (including a text-book in a liberal arts college):

 

The academic study cited most frequently by critics of a "liberal media bias" in American journalism is The Media Elite,* a 1986 book co-authored by political scientists Robert Lichter, Stanley Rothman, and Linda Lichter. They surveyed journalists at national media outlets such as the New York Times, Washington Post, and the broadcast networks. The survey which found that most of these journalists were Democratic voters whose attitudes were well to the left of the general public on a variety of topics, including such hot-button social issues such as abortion, affirmative action, and gay rights. Then they compared journalists' attitudes to their coverage of controversial issues such as the safety of nuclear power, school busing to promote racial integration, and the energy crisis of the 1970s.

 

The book's most thorough case study involved nuclear energy. The survey of journalists showed that most were highly skeptical about nuclear safety. However, the authors conducted a separate survey of scientists in energy related fields, who were much more sanguine about nuclear safety issues. They then conducted a content analysis of nuclear energy coverage in the media outlets they had surveyed. They found that the opinions of sources who were cited as scientific experts reflected the antinuclear sentiments of journalists, rather than the more pro-nuclear perspectives held by most energy scientists.

 

The authors concluded that journalists' coverage of controversial issues reflected their own attitudes, and the predominance of political liberals in newsrooms therefore pushed news coverage in a liberal direction. They presented this tilt as a mostly unconscious process of like-minded individuals projecting their shared assumptions onto their interpretations of reality. In principle this meant that newsrooms populated mainly by conservatives would produce a similarly skewed perspective toward the political right. Such accusations have been leveled against Fox News. At the time the study was embraced mainly by conservative columnists and politicians, who adopted the findings as "scientific proof" of liberal media bias.

 

Many of the positions in the preceding study are supported by a 2002 study by Jim A. Kuypers: Press Bias and Politics: How the Media Frame Controversial Issues. In this study of 116 mainstream US papers (including The New York Times, the Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, and the San Francisco Chronicle), Kuypers found that the mainstream print press in America operate within a narrow range of liberal beliefs. Those who expressed points of view further to the left were generally ignored, whereas those who expressed moderate or conservative points of view were often actively denigrated or labeled as holding a minority point of view. In short, if a political leader, regardless of party, spoke within the press-supported range of acceptable discourse, he or she would receive positive press coverage. If a politician, again regardless of party, were to speak outside of this range, he or she would receive negative press or be ignored. Kuypers also found that the liberal points of view expressed in editorial and opinion pages were found in hard news coverage of the same issues. Although focusing primarily on the issues of race and homosexuality, Kuypers found that the press injected opinion into its news coverage of other issues such as welfare reform, environmental protection, and gun control; in all cases favoring a liberal point of view.

 

Bias is something that is unavoidable as a human, but it's posssible to write objectively. Too bad most journalists do not.

 

I'm not for a government-run press (free press is the way to go, you can't have a free country without a free press) - that would set us back hundreds of years. But, it would be nice if there was a better balance of opinions.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_bias

Edited September 17, 2007 by SVT_MAN

[navlys32]

While on the topic of recalls, I heard the escape hybrid were being recalled or there is a TSB for the battery pack. dont know if its true or not.

Edited September 18, 2007 by navlys32

[Traveler]

There must be some mistake. Honda C-I-V-I-C? You're sure its a Honda? Oh well, we can just shrug our shoulders and justify it...we are afterall, Americans. The Japanese and Germans build far superior automobiles and direct the styling trends for automobiles so we don't have to. I feel so patriotic...I'm going to go buy me an Element and then maybe I can join in on the Ford-bashing.

 

Hondachat.com...here I come. :happy feet:

Edited September 18, 2007 by Traveler

[truckman901]

I'm so Happy that Honda had a recall I bet I was a small article in the Paper un like ford or GM imports suck Be a real American don't buy imports :happy feet:

 

Harry Stoffer

Automotive News

September 14, 2007 - 2:01 pm EST

 

 

WASHINGTON — American Honda Motor Co. is recalling more than 180,000 Honda Civic coupes and sedans built for the 2006-07 model years because their rear wheel bearings may fail.

 

Separately, dealers will install new brake light switches with protective coverings in about 20,000 Civic sedans and Civic Hybrids built for the 2006 model year.

 

In the larger recall, Honda told regulators that an improperly assembled O-ring on a wheel speed sensor housing allows water and road salt to reach the wheel bearing. In time, the bearing can loosen, overheat and fail.

 

Honda investigated after wheels came off two cars in Canada, according to documents filed with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Dealers are to inspect wheel speed sensors and bearings and replace those that are damaged, NHTSA said.

 

In the other recall, Honda told NHTSA that lubricant from the telescoping mechanism of the steering column causes some brake light switches to fail.

 

You may e-mail Harry Stoffer at hstoffer@crain.com

[Hydro]

I wrote my local paper a letter to the editorial section asking why there is no article letting the public know of a safety recall on the Honduh Civic. I also threw in "if this was an AMERICAN car company it would be front page". That might piss them off a little and actually get them looking??

[kevinb120]

I think conservatism is what would prevent that from hitting the media, "being cautious, discreet" according to Websters. While liberalism ithey define as "a theory in economics emphasizing individual freedom from restraint and usually based on free competition"....so if anything, US not knowing seems like a conservative approach which is what we are facing, whereas a liberal approach would have been one to report in a wider media.

 

 

This is where the confusion in liberal/conservative discussions lie. Its for the most part backwards and 'liberals' don't even seem to understand it. conservative refers to Conservative use of governmental control, liberal means liberal use of governmental control.... Most 'liberals' have no idea why they are democrats in the first place. I think they think they are free spirited and cool, while they unknowingly vote to regulate themselves to socialism and give up as much freedom as possible... Being politically 'Conservative' or Republican means minimization of government regulations and maximizing the use of minimum amount taxes for governing.

 

Problem is, there are little, if any, true Conservative Republicans in the Republican party these days, at least with any balls whatsoever. They are all bought and sold to large corporations that pay the way(like any politician). The lawmaking body of this nation has managed to establish itself as being able to be policed only by themselves, and hence we will always be overtaxed and underserviced until something is done about it. Without term limits and campaign reform(using controlled tax dollars rather then raised monies), nothing will ever change. Nobody seems to think its strange for a Senator to spend 40 million dollars for a $220k/year job.

 

Liberals are lemmings in general and have been carefully trained to think backwards. Get into an argument with one and the will eventually collapse into one of only a handful of parroted answers such as 'the war for oil', or 'the religious right', or some other such nonsense. The vast majority of things Democrats(as a populous) complain about are created by themselves voting for liberal leaders in the first place. Its no mistake the liberal/conservative confusion in the terminology itself is never properly addressed. Its a clusterfuck for sure, but a liberal spewing their 'views' on the world to me always cracks me up. California is the perfect example of the 'liberal state of confusion'.

[Biker16]

This is where the confusion in liberal/conservative discussions lie. Its for the most part backwards and 'liberals' don't even seem to understand it. conservative refers to Conservative use of governmental control, liberal means liberal use of governmental control.... Most 'liberals' have no idea why they are democrats in the first place. I think they think they are free spirited and cool, while they unknowingly vote to regulate themselves to socialism and give up as much freedom as possible... Being politically 'Conservative' or Republican means minimization of government regulations and maximizing the use of minimum amount taxes for governing.

 

Problem is, there are little, if any, true Conservative Republicans in the Republican party these days, at least with any balls whatsoever. They are all bought and sold to large corporations that pay the way(like any politician). The lawmaking body of this nation has managed to establish itself as being able to be policed only by themselves, and hence we will always be overtaxed and underserviced until something is done about it. Without term limits and campaign reform(using controlled tax dollars rather then raised monies), nothing will ever change. Nobody seems to think its strange for a Senator to spend 40 million dollars for a $220k/year job.

 

Liberals are lemmings in general and have been carefully trained to think backwards. Get into an argument with one and the will eventually collapse into one of only a handful of parroted answers such as 'the war for oil', or 'the religious right', or some other such nonsense. The vast majority of things Democrats(as a populous) complain about are created by themselves voting for liberal leaders in the first place. Its no mistake the liberal/conservative confusion in the terminology itself is never properly addressed. Its a clusterfuck for sure, but a liberal spewing their 'views' on the world to me always cracks me up. California is the perfect example of the 'liberal state of confusion'.

 

that is a conservative definition of liberals and conservatives.

 

Most use the dictionary definition.

[inteller]

I'm so Happy that Honda had a recall I bet I was a small article in the Paper un like ford or GM imports suck Be a real American don't buy imports :happy feet:

 

then I know several Ford's you shouldn't buy.

 

Here is a better idea, don't buy American made "imports" It seems honda's problems started happening once they stopped building the Civics in Japan and started building them here. My Mexican made Ford holds up great.

[Catalepsy]

Nah, it's a global economy now...Americans should buy from American owned companies no matter where they are produced. There is nothing wrong with being nationalistic. If you are a fan of the Japanese, you should already know they are extremely nationalistic and proud, which is good for them. You gotta go with the home team no matter where they are playing.

 

By the way, Honda/Toyota mechanical problems are not production related...they are engineering problems. It ain't the yanks engineering nor designing these things.

 

 

 

 

 

then I know several Ford's you shouldn't buy.

 

Here is a better idea, don't buy American made "imports" It seems honda's problems started happening once they stopped building the Civics in Japan and started building them here. My Mexican made Ford holds up great.

[ANTAUS]

That is true, to this day Toyota has not resolved the engine sludge problems. They publically admitted years ago that their engineers studied the issues, and couldn't explain why this was occuring, YET, it was the responsibility of the owner's to change the oil as required by the vehicles (I guess I wouldn't be able to pull the 40K between oil changes on the last Mustang I had).

 

Honda has the same issue with their automatic transmissions, which have not yet been able to find the cause of their failure. Whats worse is, the lowered the frequency of it's maintenence, and the design is pretty much the same. You would think they would upgrade it and possible source out a new 6speed automatic from another supplier, but they haven't, and so the new Accord debuts with old tech 5 speed, while competitors have moved onto 6speeds.