range Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 George Pipas today was commenting on Lincoln's strong sales performance in September and for the entire year and mentioned upcoming "named and unnamed" models. What do people think are the models that haven't been announced yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockFX Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 George Pipas today was commenting on Lincoln's strong sales performance in September and for the entire year and mentioned upcoming "named and unnamed" models. What do people think are the models that haven't been announced yet? Brand new Blackwood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igor Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 MKS sedan and MK? 7 passenger people mover. both will debut next year . the people mover might go on sale in 08 or 09 Igor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Brand new Blackwood. that would be interesting.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLPRacing Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Brand new Blackwood. The only "announced" model that I can think of is the MKS. As far "unannounced", the 2009 or 2010 MKZ is rumored to being thoroughly updated with a MKR style nose and revised tail. I imagine the 3.7 will become an option. The MKX will probably updated around the same time. There will be a new people mover similar to the Flex, but won't share any sheetmetal. Maybe it will get a name (like Aviator?) instead of emm-kay-sumpin. The MarkLT is going away after 2008 and the Town Car needs a replacement. Completely speculating, I hope there will be some kind of SUT based on the Navigator, a RWD coupe/convertible based on the next gen Mustang and a full size RWD/AWD sedan based on the upcoming "global" rwd architecture. I would like to see diesels, hybrids and maybe even an H2ICE. It'll be interesting to see if they stick with this split grill styling thing and the MK_ naming scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockFX Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 My comment about a brand new Blackwood was complete sarcasm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLPRacing Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 My comment about a brand new Blackwood was complete sarcasm. I kind of figured that. I bet we'll see a Focus based Lincoln before we'll see another Blackwood... Here's a pic of the MKS spied on the Batman set... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 What they need is the MKR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnFan Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 What they need is the MKR What platform are they going to build it on? I don't think we will ever see the MKR before the Huntsman is ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Well if its any better..2011 is only 3 Model years away :P But I put my money on the Flex Lincoln showing next year at the NAIAS being the next Lincoln and the MKS being shown at the LA Autoshow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchdevil Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 (edited) I kind of figured that. I bet we'll see a Focus based Lincoln before we'll see another Blackwood... LINCOLN MKY Lincoln's segment leading new rear-entry level vehicle... Of course Cadillac's response will be a new Alpha based RWD V8... Edited October 3, 2007 by Watchdevil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Please. For the love of God. Never let that photoshop see the light of day ever again. Ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Greene Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 (edited) Hopefully....the new Lincilns will be real "Lincolns". My wife, after sitting in one, just thinks the MKZ is a Milan with nicer interior and options. It doesn't flip her switch, for the extra money. She's ready to pass her 2005 Montego down to another family member, but she won't buy anything without HID headlights, so a Sable is out this time. She's waiting for the new models. She loves her L/M dealership, so is loyal to them. Edited October 3, 2007 by Ralph Greene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Hopefully....the new Lincilns will be real "Lincolns". My wife, after sitting in one, just thinks the MKZ is a Milan with nicer interior and options. It doesn't flip her switch, for the extra money. She's ready to pass her 2005 Montego down to another family member, but she won't buy anything without HID headlights, so a Sable is out this time. She's waiting for the new models. She loves her L/M dealership, so is loyal to them. Why would someone immediately exclude a car just because it doesn't have HID's? I really don't get the fascination with them. They are nice, but it's hardly what I would consider a deal-breaker if the rest of the car meets expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2D Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Why would someone immediately exclude a car just because it doesn't have HID's? I really don't get the fascination with them. They are nice, but it's hardly what I would consider a deal-breaker if the rest of the car meets expectations. If you live by the the LAKE, where there's a narrow 2 lane road close by the water late at night, You'll appreciate the HID's more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Greene Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 My wife and daughter (who both have good vision BTW) think HID's make night driving a lot safer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 If you live by the the LAKE, where there's a narrow 2 lane road close by the water late at night, You'll appreciate the HID's more. Any, and I stress this, any round or square reflector headlamp system is going to give more than ample light for any type of driving that you might do anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 If you live by the the LAKE, where there's a narrow 2 lane road close by the water late at night, You'll appreciate the HID's more. Hmmm...my parents' house is down a nice 3/4 mile wooded driveway and I have managed not to run into any trees or deer on my many trips down it at night without HID's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igor Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 (edited) HID's are nice - but not any safer - since they do not shine any FURTHER than usual lights .. oh and they are completely useless in rain/wet road - the yellowish halogen works better to add contrast to the wet road/rain condition. I know I have them - and yes if I can my next car will have HID's (projector HID's actually) ... and it might be a deciding fact among 2 close competitors - but it will not be a deal breaker. PS; the only Lincoln without HID's is MKX. The only other Ford with HID's is Mustang. Igor Edited October 3, 2007 by igor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wescoent Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 George Pipas today was commenting on Lincoln's strong sales performance in September and for the entire year and mentioned upcoming "named and unnamed" models. What do people think are the models that haven't been announced yet? Lincoln has a ton of holes in its line, and aside from what we do know, has plenty of opportunities for expansion based on existing Ford products. We know Mullally intends to make Lincoln Ford's primary North American luxury brand again, and that its fate is tied to Ford's product development. Lincoln LS: Product development at Ford seems to have finally woken up, and accepted that RWD is par for the course for a luxury brand. A new midsized sports sedan to compliment the MKZ could be easily spun off the next Falcon, assuming NVH requirements can be met. It will be able to use standard Ford V6 and V8 engines, and be built alongside the next-generation large sedans at St Thomas, since they will share parts on a semi-shared platform. Another possibility would be a wholesale replacement of the MKZ (while retaining the name) by this new RWD sedan in 2011-2012 when the Fusion moves to EUCD-2. It would make sense... what would the cost difference be between basing it on a FWD midsize platform, or a RWD midsize platform? Lincoln Flex: An elephant in the room. We know it will be much curvier than the Flex, and will be designed with a corporate jet theme, as it should be. This will split the difference between the taut MKX and the leviathan Navigator, and should sell very well, assuming they can keep the price reasonable. Lincoln Blackwood: I don't see another Lincoln pickup truck happening. I believe Ford intends to cover this range with the King Ranch, Limited, and Harley-Davidson, making a Lincoln redundant and out of place in the showroom. Lincoln Town Car: We know a replacement has been approved on the Huntsman platform. I believe an MKS and a slightly more expensive Town Car can happily co-exist at the top of Lincoln's sedan line. A question remains whether this will continue being a limo-queen after the death of the Panther, or whether Lincoln will make it a much more exclusive model line. Lincoln MKR: I also think Lincoln can afford to build a 4-door coupe like the MKR, and price it alongside the Town Car and MKS as a low volume fashion car designed to drive interest in the brand. Lincoln Kuga: Rumors have surfaced that Lincoln will get a version of the next-generation Kuga when it hits our shores as the Escape. I don't think this neccesarily marks the death-knell of Mercury. A Twin-Force AWD only Lincoln Kuga would be a cool little X3/RDX competitor, and be a nice little brother to the MKX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Lincoln Flex: An elephant in the room. We know it will be much curvier than the Flex, and will be designed with a corporate jet theme, as it should be. This will split the difference between the taut MKX and the leviathan Navigator, and should sell very well, assuming they can keep the price reasonable. The Lincoln Flex pricing should be interesting, considering that an fully optioned out Flex goes for $40-42K. I don't see how they sell a MKF or whatever they call it for more then $55K for a full-sized station wagon it is. A loaded Navi goes for what? under 60K? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 The Lincoln Flex pricing should be interesting, considering that an fully optioned out Flex goes for $40-42K. I don't see how they sell a MKF or whatever they call it for more then $55K for a full-sized station wagon it is. A loaded Navi goes for what? under 60K? There's a happy price gap between the MKX and Navigator in that $40-50K range where I think it'll do just fine. The pricing on the Flex isn't finalized either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96 Pony Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 George Pipas today was commenting on Lincoln's strong sales performance in September and for the entire year and mentioned upcoming "named and unnamed" models. What do people think are the models that haven't been announced yet? The return of the Versailles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 The pricing on the Flex isn't finalized either. Well there isnt much wiggle room for the Flex either...considering that topped out Edge is like 36-38K and the Taurus X is around the same price with an extra seat in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Well there isnt much wiggle room for the Flex either...considering that topped out Edge is like 36-38K and the Taurus X is around the same price with an extra seat in it. I think there may be a bit more overlap room for the Flex compared to a lot of other vehicles though. People are either going to go for the styling or they aren't. The price and features are likely going to factor into sales less than the "gotta have it" factor. The Edge and Taurus X are styled a bit more traditionally and need to sell based on content for the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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