Blueblood Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Since the other thread died.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT_MAN Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Awesome. So the engine STARTS at 6.2L? I'm confused how this is going to help CAFE, but I like it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moby Vic Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Man, it sure would be nice if they'd put it in a special edition '09 Mustang. They could call it ... the Boss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 From what I recall reading earlier, the 6.2 isn't exactly the "starting" engine. It's just the first engine size being made of this new architecture. Somewhere I read they were going to eventually produce a smaller one, in the 5.0 neighborhood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 From what I recall reading earlier, the 6.2 isn't exactly the "starting" engine. It's just the first engine size being made of this new architecture. Somewhere I read they were going to eventually produce a smaller one, in the 5.0 neighborhood. Searching around Blue Oval Forums, there have been "design exercises" for other displacements from 5.8L to 7.0L, none of which are currently scheduled for production. IIRC, the 5.8L was a short stroke version of the 6.2L and the 7.0L had a larger bore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 . Somewhere I read they were going to eventually produce a smaller one, in the 5.0 neighborhood. Thats most likely going to be an off shoot of the current mod engine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Ahh, now that you refresh my memory, it was the 5.8 I recall reading about. Personally, I probably wouldn't need any of those engines. The TTGDI 3.5 will probably do what I need in a half ton truck. But I like that Ford is throwing options out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray101988 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 From what I recall reading earlier, the 6.2 isn't exactly the "starting" engine. It's just the first engine size being made of this new architecture. Somewhere I read they were going to eventually produce a smaller one, in the 5.0 neighborhood. I think theyre working on a 5.0 MOD engine for the Mustang. I dont think it would be for the F150. Ive read about a 5.8, the 6.2 and a 7.0 that are being worked on. I heard 6.2L might be available 6mos after the F150 initial launch. Well probably find out at teh chicago show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calypsocoral Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 I think theyre working on a 5.0 MOD engine for the Mustang. I dont think it would be for the F150. Ive read about a 5.8, the 6.2 and a 7.0 that are being worked on. A 5.0 MOD would make better sense for the Mustang, since it allows Ford to keep an aluminum block, and a smaller block at that, in order to keep the Mustang's not-too-shabby front-to-rear weight distribution. Slamming an iron-block BOSS into the Mustang would make it a bit more nose-heavy, but probably not as bad as the GT500... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6t5frlane Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 OK for us Old Farts. How many Cubic Inches is the new Boss?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 OK for us Old Farts. How many Cubic Inches is the new Boss?? My math says 378 ci from 6.2 liters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLPRacing Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 A 5.0 MOD would make better sense for the Mustang, since it allows Ford to keep an aluminum block, and a smaller block at that, in order to keep the Mustang's not-too-shabby front-to-rear weight distribution. Slamming an iron-block BOSS into the Mustang would make it a bit more nose-heavy, but probably not as bad as the GT500... The rumor has it that the 5.0 MOD that will go into the Mustang will be CGI, not Aluminum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Awesome. So the engine STARTS at 6.2L? I'm confused how this is going to help CAFE, but I like it! It was originally to replace the 6.8 liter V10. with the development of turbocharged engines and stiffer CAFE regulations. I think the 6.2 will have it's place in thsi next design cycle but after that who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray101988 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 It was originally to replace the 6.8 liter V10.with the development of turbocharged engines and stiffer CAFE regulations. I think the 6.2 will have it's place in thsi next design cycle but after that who knows? I heard that the 6.2L was designed with direct injection and displacement on demand in mind. Also Im assuming that since the upgraded engine right now have fuel shut off on deceleration that the 6.2l will too? Anyway Ive heard that Ford is also still working on HLA. So if they use this tech, Im pretty sure that the 6.2 and other large V8s could be around for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT_MAN Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 My math says 378 ci from 6.2 liters. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=6...to+cubic+inches Google's math agrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford-150 Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 so Ford is replacing the 6.8L V10 with the 6.2L V8 in their SD trucks GM already replaced their 8.1L V8 with their new 6.0L V8 now GM is saying they will replace the 6.0L V8 across the board with their 6.2L V8 that is currently in the Denali and Escalade are they doing this because Ford is putting out the 6.2L V8 and their 6.0L V8 will be one of the weaker engines in the truck market since it produces less than the new Hemi, the Boss, and the 5.7L Toyota? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue II Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Since the other thread died.. Those pieces are early development parts. The production Boss will be a bit different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue II Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 The rumor has it that the 5.0 MOD that will go into the Mustang will be CGI, not Aluminum. Two 5.0 programs right now. One from the 5.4. DOHC DI, code Coyote. One from the 4.6, CGI, boosted DI DOHC, code Bobcat. (needs to be CGI for wider bore space bulkhead strength) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosetang Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Two 5.0 programs right now. One from the 5.4. DOHC DI, code Coyote. One from the 4.6, CGI, boosted DI DOHC, code Bobcat. (needs to be CGI for wider bore space bulkhead strength) Which of those options most appeals to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30 OTT 6 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Two 5.0 programs right now. One from the 5.4. DOHC DI, code Coyote. One from the 4.6, CGI, boosted DI DOHC, code Bobcat. (needs to be CGI for wider bore space bulkhead strength) Wow, I hope the Coyote isn't a 5.4L block with a decreased bore size! If that's the case... Go, Bobcat, Go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 One from the 4.6, CGI, boosted DI DOHC, code Bobcat. I dont get a warm and fuzzy with something named after the Mercury Pinto...the Bobcat! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyMustang Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Wow, I hope the Coyote isn't a 5.4L block with a decreased bore size! If that's the case... Go, Bobcat, Go! I'm guessin the 5.4 version is destroked with a slightly larger bore. But I'm with you, Go Bobcat!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford-150 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I dont get a warm and fuzzy with something named after the Mercury Pinto...the Bobcat! LOL it is also the name of a really great earth mover brand, which are very powerful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goinbroke2 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Is the pic flipped or is the starter on the wrong side?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White99GT Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Two 5.0 programs right now. One from the 5.4. DOHC DI, code Coyote. Why not just slap a 5.4 DOHC DI in there? With all that deckheight, it doesn't really make much sense to destroke it. That would be a physically huge 5.0. The Australians can get 405 HP (Boss 302) out of the DOHC 5.4 without even trying, so could SVT in 2000, why can't Ford of today? I laugh everytime I hear of the 335 HP GT500-headed 5.4. There must have been some real dubasses involved with that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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