MarkFive Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 little off his lower figure of 10k though...but STILL amazing value...if you don't mind the stigma associated they WILL run forever have adequate power, are CHEAP to maintain....if that floats your boat who gives a rats they are antiquated....for cheap trans it would be a car I would recommend/ image aside.... If I had bought it new, I would be mighty pissed it had depreciated so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 If I had bought it new, I would be mighty pissed it had depreciated so much. nah...pick em up in an estate sale...owner obviously wont give a damn at that stage...LOL! Bottom line though, the owners are usually elderly...and they seem to keep their cars forever....where these used ones are coming from i have no idea...perhaps spending the gas money each month has persuaded them to go Camry or Accord...each of which I seem to see a lot of around Leisure World....doing 35mph max.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 how the heck did a Flex thread get on the road?????????? my apologies....probably had something to do with $ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkFive Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 how the heck did a Flex thread get on the road?????????? my apologies....probably had something to do with $ Someone who likes the was commenting that the Flex was a joke, particularly because it was being released on April 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Someone who likes the was commenting that the Flex was a joke, particularly because it was being released on April 1st. ahhhh, but its always others that bring it to the conversation........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkFive Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 (edited) ahhhh, but its always others that bring it to the conversation........ I'm as guilty as the next person for adding to the off topics. I have to say, some of the off topics are a lot more interesting than others. Back to the main topic of this. I am not looking forward to the CDN price on the Flex. I hope I'm wrong but based on the Taurus X current price, this isn't going to be seen in droves on the street where I live. I am however looking forward to hearing what people say about it when they see it. Those that I've shown pictures of it to have always been very hot or very cold towards it. A really good friend of mind said it looked like a "Gangster Ambulance." Its going to create some very good buzz for Ford. Edited February 23, 2008 by MarkFive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 I'm as guilty as the next person who adding to the off topics. I have to say, some of the off topics are a lot more interesting than others. Back to the main topic of this. I am not looking forward to the CDN price on the Flex. I hope I'm wrong but based on the Taurus X current price, this isn't going to be seen in droves on the street where I live. I am however, looking forward to hearing what people say about it when they see it. Those that I've shown pictures of it to have always been very hot or very cold towards it. A really good friend of mind said it looked like a "Gangster Ambulance." Its going to create some very good buzz for Ford. LOOKS FANTASTIC.......and is comparably priced with more features than its competitors.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 ahhhh, but its always others that bring it to the conversation........ Let's go back and look at the facts Dean...(those pesky little things that you love to ignore) Pioneer said: Interesting. Why would you launch a vehicle on April Fools Day? Then I replied: Because it looks like a joke? Then, NickF1011 immediately replied: Says the man with a sedan that looks like it was designed 20 years ago. So...yeah...it was the :cheerleader: that brought them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goinbroke2 Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 I can't wait to see it in the lot. Well everybody is always changing the subject to panthers...how about this change? April 1st 1968 was when ford intro'd the 428cj in a mustang and rated it at only 335hp. 335hp, now THAT was a joke! LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 (edited) Let's go back and look at the facts Dean...(those pesky little things that you love to ignore) Pioneer said: Then I replied: Then, NickF1011 immediately replied: So...yeah...it was the :cheerleader: that brought them up. ok corrected, you may not initially bring it up...but you sure do bring it on yourself...and someone stating Because it looks like a joke?...and that drives a CV deserves nothing less than the constant retaliation he receives..........how can anyone take your opinion seriously P? Edited February 23, 2008 by Deanh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkFive Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 (edited) LOOKS FANTASTIC.......and is comparably priced with more features than its competitors.... I remember back in the mid-80s when Ford started to turn itself around from a pretty bleak period. It started with the '83 Thunderbird. You'd see one of those on the road and just look at it with admiration. It looked like nothing else on the road. Ford had taken a gamble on design and everyone was looking at what they had done. Then when the Taurus came out at the end of '85, even more people started to look. Then you would hear people saying "I hear Ford makes good cars now" and you knew that something had changed. I was so used to defending them up to that point that I wasn't expecting that kind of a reaction. Edited February 23, 2008 by MarkFive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSgagz Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Well okay, back to the Flex. I mapped out my perfect flex at $43,110 which is good considering my current 2006 Exporer Eddie Baur was $44,234. Of course both these numbers were before tax so I'm looking foward to my Flex! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 ok corrected, you may not initially bring it up...but you sure do bring it on yourself...and someone stating Because it looks like a joke?...and that drives a CV deserves nothing less than the constant retaliation he receives..........how can anyone take your opinion seriously P? Yeah...cuz a freaking box is so damn stylish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Ford Flex fails to wow at car show When Ford’s Flex rolled onto the stage last week at the New York auto show, the reaction from the automotive journalists gathered to witness its debut was decidedly mixed. The boxy, six-passenger crossover is being positioned as Ford’s more stylish alternative to the minivan, a segment it abandoned in 2006. To some, the Flex looked like a strange, oversized Mini Cooper, although others saw merit in its distinctively modern feel. And there was some confusion about the name, which seemed to suggest a flexible-fuel vehicle that can alternate between two fuel sources. (In fact, the name refers to vehicle’s “flexibility” in hauling passenger and cargo, and there are no special fuel attributes other then a “capless” fueling system that saves you from forgetting to put the gas cap back on after fueling.) At times, Ford appears overly focused on gimmicks. The Flex was the automaker’s top offering at the New York show. The automaker's other offerings included several limited-edition vehicles: the Funkmaster Flex Ford Expedition, a version of the SUV designed for hip-hop impresario Funkmaster Flex, an F-150 pickup truck redesigned by car customizer Chip Foose and the 540-horsepower “King of the Road” Shelby GT500KR Mustang, devised by racing legend Carroll Shelby. The showing did little to impress analysts looking for serious signs of a turnaround at the struggling carmaker. “Ford already has fancy versions of the Mustang out there, so another halo vehicle with a limited production run is nice, but it doesn’t do anything for Ford’s bottom line,” said Aaron Bragman, a Global Insight analyst. “The Flex is a much more critical vehicle for Ford — it has to sell, and it has to sell in some volume and at the appropriate price to make up for the money that Ford is not making on the Expedition and the Explorer and reduced volumes of the F-150.” The unique-looking Flex — which joins the Edge and Taurus X in Ford’s growing lineup of crossovers — is designed to stand out in “an increasingly crowded sea of crossovers” said J Mays, Ford’s chief creative officer. Indeed, when it goes on sale next year it will include a host of “cool” features, like a refrigerator in the second row of seats, a 2,300-song juke box and a multipanel sunroof. Safety features include a rear back-up camera and electronic stability control. Ford is hoping to capture a chunk of the automotive industry’s fastest-growing segment, taking on crossovers like the GMC Acadia and Saturn Outlook, although while you can go out and buy a GMC Acadia and a Saturn Outlook now, you’ll have to wait until mid-2008 to get your hands on the new Flex. U.S. crossover sales rose to more than 2.2 million units last year, up from about 700,000 in 2000, according to J.D. Power and Associates' Power Information Network. Minivan sales by contrast fell under 1 million units from about 1.3 million in 2000. Ford badly needs a blockbuster hit. Like rivals General Motors and Chrysler, Ford has been racking up heavy losses, pummeled by Asian automakers that have taken a growing share of the U.S. market. The Big Three also are saddled with billions of dollars in healthcare and pension obligations and have been hurt by a shift away from profitable but gas-guzzling SUVs and trucks. All three automakers have announced massive layoffs, plant closures and a shake-up of their product offerings, but the outlook for Ford is bleaker than its rivals. GM, the world’s largest automaker, is starting to stem the flow of red ink, and Chrysler is likely to be sold by its German parent, DaimlerChrysler. But Ford, which lost $12.7 billion last year, the largest loss in its 103-year history, has mortgaged factories, buildings and brands to secure a $23 billion line of credit to fund its restructuring plan and cover the losses it expects to rack up until 2009, when it hopes to turn a profit. “This is Ford’s last shot,” said Bragman. “If they can’t turn this thing around, things are going to be difficult in the years ahead because the whole company is mortgaged. They had to get that loan because the liquidity situation was untenable. They were not turning a profit at their automotive operations. But in 2009 they have to turn a profit and start paying back some of the money they have secured. If they don’t manage to do it, it’s going to be a very difficult situation for Ford.” Unfortunately, Ford has shown little sign it has a strong pipeline of new vehicles coming to market, analysts say. “We are concerned that we don’t see the same activity we are seeing at other automakers in their turnarounds,” said Bragman. “If you look at GM, they’ve done a good job of communicating their plans for the future to the industry at large, and as such they really have restored confidence in their turnaround plan. Ford should be announcing to the world the products that they plan to come up with — the products coming out in the next three to five years — because that’s what is going to restore the confidence in much of the industry that they can turn their business around.” One positive for Ford is the elevation of the company’s chief vehicle designer, J Mays, who is responsible for shaping the design direction of Ford’s eight global brands. A criticism of Ford has been the blandness of its design, particularly of vehicles like the Ford Five Hundred, now renamed the Taurus. Mays is credited with redesign successes like the new Volkswagen Beetle and the Ford Thunderbird, and his prominence at Ford will help the company focus on producing well-styled vehicles, analysts say. No wonder why Dean likes it... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18021283/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18021283/ That's so last year. It was a poor report then, and preposterous now. Please do better, otherwise, you become tedious and moronic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 That's so last year. It was a poor report then, and preposterous now. Please do better, otherwise, you become tedious and moronic. It's ok to admit that the truth hurts...in fact...it should be recognized and then we might see products that are actually desirable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 This looks interesting: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarShark Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 (edited) ok corrected, you may not initially bring it up...but you sure do bring it on yourself...and someone stating Because it looks like a joke?...and that drives a CV deserves nothing less than the constant retaliation he receives..........how can anyone take your opinion seriously P?Waitasecond. Didn't you just say, not even an hour ago... little off his lower figure of 10k though...but STILL amazing value...if you don't mind the stigma associated they WILL run forever have adequate power, are CHEAP to maintain....if that floats your boat who gives a rats they are antiquated....for cheap trans it would be a car I would recommend/ image aside.... So you just pretty much sold a Crown Vic to MarkFive, and then immediately bashed P71 for driving a Crown Vic. Edited February 23, 2008 by CarShark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02MustangGT Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Nice catch Carshark. He's a salesman though, so you have to give him a break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Nice catch Carshark. He's a salesman though, so you have to give him a break. A Ford salesman...which is why he spends all of his time "working" here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 (edited) How is it possible that they go for that little? I think he is stretching....17-18 is more like it...just low resale really....no-one really wants em...but great value second hand if thats your cup of tea...yup, wholesale book on an 07LX 10k miles id 19500...NO WAY THEY ARE 9500 SOFT!...I'm tooting the BS horn.....totally out of character for P.... little off his lower figure of 10k though...but STILL amazing value...if you don't mind the stigma associated they WILL run forever have adequate power, are CHEAP to maintain....if that floats your boat who gives a rats they are antiquated....for cheap trans it would be a car I would recommend/ image aside.... Dean...you are such a mook. MarkFive here is a 2008 on E-Bay with 11K on the clock, leather, cd player, electronic HVAC control, dual power seats, steering wheel mounted radio and HVAC controls, etc for $15.9 Click. And it will get 30 MPG on the highway. Edited February 23, 2008 by P71_CrownVic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford??-LOL! Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 All car salesmen = Lying Criminals Deanh is no exception........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 All car salesmen = Lying Criminals Deanh is no exception........... Ford LOL = Moron, no exception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Ford??-LOL! = moronic catamite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford??-LOL! Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Ford LOL = Moron, no exception. suv_guy_19 = loser 100 posts a day?? Wow, i know there is not much to do up North but Goddam!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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