MERKURXR4Ti Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 It looks nice enough but i prefer the subtle differences in the one shown last year. Pics from last year. Can't believe I actually agree with something you said....where did the real troll go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkisler Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 I have a nagging suspicion that the reason the car is so different is simple - it is a difference car under the skin ... Igor Not sure why you think that. Here are my thoughts so far. First, Atenza, Mazda6, and Fusion/Milan/MKZ are all CD3 and will stay that way until the CD3 and EUCD are unified in around 2011 or 2012. All you need to do is look at the description of the front and rear suspension to verify (in particular SLA front on CD3 vs. Mcpherson on EUCD). Let's concentrate on wheelbase: 2008 Mazda 6: 105.3" 2008 Fusion: 107.4" 2009 Japan/Europe Atenza: 107.3" 2009 Mazda 6 (USA): ?? The "C/D" entries have been growing, and the Mazda 6 ended up on the smaller side, so the increase in wheelbase and rear seat package makes sense. It looks to me like Mazda took the longer front floor pan designed in the US for the triplets, and applied it to the Atenza produced in Japan. And probably developed some other platform mods which will likely get passed back to the freshened triplets. I really don't think Mazda will stretch the US version any longer. Turning circle is already wide on the triplets, and it could become cumbersome with a further stretch. And, even though the body panels are stamped in different locations, the development costs would increase. I think when Mazda has been bragging about how the US version will be unique, they are exagerating the situation and merely taking advantage of the fact that they can develop minor unique surfacing and lenses because the parts are sourced from the US rather than Japan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Reynolds Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 On second glance I like the euro version much better. I still like the US Mazda 6, but the grille on the EU version is mucho better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 So will the new Mazda ride on an identical Fusion platform, or is it leapfrogging ahead with a a different one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 So will the new Mazda ride on an identical Fusion platform, or is it leapfrogging ahead with a a different one? Probably using a slightly tweaked version of the Fusion. Since they are built in different plants and use different suppliers, the need to keep them identical isn't too great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKII Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Seen a few new Mazda6 on the streets here in Estonia, and it is a much larger car then the previous model. More upscale in appearance but less sporty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkisler Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 So will the new Mazda ride on an identical Fusion platform, or is it leapfrogging ahead with a a different one? See my post above. Still CD3, but might have some other revisions which would be typical of a platform mid cycle. The Fusion is basically just a stretch of the first gen Mazda 6 with a new body. The AWD floorpan was developed from the Mazdaspeed 6. The new Atenza grew a bit. Mazda had the Fusion design available to them; whether they adopted it totally or developed it themselves is TBD, but a stretch is not a huge deal as it occurs in the middle of the vehicle. If they made other mods in the Atenza that changed underbody stampings, those changes would likely be passed to the Mazda 6 for the US and also made available for the Hermosillo triplets if Ford chooses to adopt them. There are certain areas of the car that are critical to maintain to keep development costs in check. Even though the metal is stamped in three different locations (Hofu, Hermosillo, Flat Rock), the underbody structure is an area that you want as common as possible. Also, there can be changes in the exterior sheetmetal between the European/Japanese Atenza and the US Mazda 6 without incurring huge costs. But...if Mazda were to change things like wheelbase, or door openings and seals, development costs go up. One thing to look at would be a side view of the doors to see how similar they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford??-LOL! Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Can't believe I actually agree with something you said....where did the real troll go? Go to the bathroom. See that thing staring back from the mirror?? You just found the real troll!! :hysterical: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Go to the bathroom. See that thing staring back from the mirror?? You just found the real troll!! :hysterical: Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand he's back...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_fairmont_wagon Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Wow, gotta say I love the back. The front seems OK to me, but, without a good depth of field view to see what the real curves on the front are like, I'm going to withhold judgement on it. Overall, though, I find it a nice improvement and definitely a little more upscale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Maybe it is just me (probably), but I am not seeing a -huge- difference between the Euro 6 and the US 6. I see subtle differences...like a front air damn and some mesh behind the grille. I think the front air damn (love the Ferrari 360 look) makes the biggest difference visually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MERKURXR4Ti Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Go to the bathroom. See that thing staring back from the mirror?? You just found the real troll!! :hysterical: Oh ow, insults via computer....gotta love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazerdude20 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 another shot of it. finally gets led's :happy feet: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Go to the bathroom. See that thing staring back from the mirror?? You just found the real troll!! :hysterical: Wow, you can't even be an original troll. You pretty much stole that comment from one of my replies to you: Well, glad at least you found that funny.............. :boring: And you didn't find it funny because it's TRUE! Of course, if you want a really, really funny joke, take a look in the mirror! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford??-LOL! Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Wow, you can't even be an original troll. You pretty much stole that comment from one of my replies to you:And you didn't find it funny because it's TRUE! Of course, if you want a really, really funny joke, take a look in the mirror! I can always count on the village idiot Servo to jump in where he is not needed. Show me your copyright on the well used combination of words indicating ones reflection from a mirror and i will send you $50. Yeah, just like i thought....................no copyright!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 I can always count on the village idiot Servo to jump in where he is not needed. Show me your copyright on the well used combination of words indicating ones reflection from a mirror and i will send you $50. Yeah, just like i thought....................no copyright!! I can always count on you to come back with moronic bullshit like this. :boring: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmm55 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Could the red US6 be a Sport version (w/ monochrome grill and wider tires?) Here I found a "flatter" Euro version and desaturated the US version and added a chrome grill to make them more =. Different, but not that much. And I do like the US rear better too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn704 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 I really don't think Mazda will stretch the US version any longer. Turning circle is already wide on the triplets, and it could become cumbersome with a further stretch. And, even though the body panels are stamped in different locations, the development costs would increase. Mazda fixed the turning radius with the MS6, surely that will be passed onto the new Mazda6 and to the triplets. The AWD MS6 has a turning radius of 36.8 ft verus the 39 in the 2003-2008 Mazda6. Those spyshots are at weird angles, I hope more pictures will surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjerries Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 so is it really gonna have the 3.7 v6 or is it a rumor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsliwin1 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 so is it really gonna have the 3.7 v6 or is it a rumor... do not know about engine, but I have seen two 6's yesterday and monday at I-75 exit 21 in monroe county and they are very sharp looking vehicles. One was white and the other black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjerries Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPag...=upcomingMAZDA6 yea it will have the 3.7..and the car looks nice :happy feet: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlover Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPag...=upcomingMAZDA6 Reviewed the website. No manual with the V6. very dissapointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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