Pioneer Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Hmm, I thought this same switch was used on SN95 Mustangs too. I've just been waiting for my Cobra to be recalled over this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordtech1 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Hmm, I thought this same switch was used on SN95 Mustangs too. I've just been waiting for my Cobra to be recalled over this... Actually the Mustangs used a mechanical brake pressure sensor. It attaches to the pedal as a redundant switch to disable cruise. I don't think mustangs use any master cylinder mounted pressure switches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordtech1 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 They are not fixing it by replacing the switch. They are just putting an in-line fuse on the power wire. The switch will be replaced with a new style if the old one is leaking fluid. I think they should have just replaced all the switches and be done with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomaro Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Do we know if the total was tallied before or after cash for clunkers?? How many of these vehicles were still on the road 3 months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustang_Marty Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Some still catch on fire.... http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW....214c9e4d0.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Some still catch on fire.... http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW....214c9e4d0.html That one was already recalled some time ago...and was never repaired. The homeowner was going to take the car in the next day to have it serviced. Suuuuuuuuure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Selby Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 It will be interesting to chart the return customers that this recall affects. I predict that less than 60% will buy another Ford product due to this recall. Why? All manufacturers have recalls. They did this fix to my 2002 F-150 a few years back and I have purchased 2 new Fords since with a 3rd possibly in the works. It was a quick fix they did on the spot. I know many other F-150 owners that didn't think twice about this recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extreme4x4 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Yea, 2.5 years, and 35 notices, after it was recalled the first time. He will win a huge settlement, because Ford should have sent Vinnie over to his house, to pull him out of bed yelling and screaming, and force him, at gunpoint, to bring the vehicle in to have the recall taken care of. Thus, Ford was negligent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Yea, 2.5 years, and 35 notices, after it was recalled the first time. He will win a huge settlement, because Ford should have sent Vinnie over to his house, to pull him out of bed yelling and screaming, and force him, at gunpoint, to bring the vehicle in to have the recall taken care of. Thus, Ford was negligent. Well, duh! I'm kidding...this guy really needs from his family for destroying their house! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Well, duh! I'm kidding...this guy really needs from his family for destroying their house! I mean whats next...forced accountability...Recalls through certified mail?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Selby Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I mean whats next...forced accountability...Recalls through certified mail?????? I hear Ford is planning to enlist the help of the folks from "Operation Repo". "It ain't no joke if you don't bring us the recall note". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I hear Ford is planning to enlist the help of the folks from "Operation Repo". "It ain't no joke if you don't bring us the recall note". or, brimg it in by ( date ) or we will dispatch a mobile fix AT YOUR COST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordtech1 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I hear Ford is planning to enlist the help of the folks from "Operation Repo". "It ain't no joke if you don't bring us the recall note". I love to hate that show!!!! Its so bad its great!!! I love the hippo with sharpe eyebrows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 So are you guys saying I should finally get the recall done on my SHO? Nobody's fault but my own, I've received at least 6 letters on it. I read once that Ford sends out the most notices of all the manufacturers. Let me check.......nope, not burning yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordtech1 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 So are you guys saying I should finally get the recall done on my SHO? Nobody's fault but my own, I've received at least 6 letters on it. I read once that Ford sends out the most notices of all the manufacturers. Let me check.......nope, not burning yet! All you need to do is go disconect the pressure switch and look for fluid. If its dry then don't worry about it. If you see fluid in the connector, leave it disconnected until you can get the recall done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 OK, so I have a question. I've heard it said that it's a TI part and they should share some of the recall cost. OTOH, I've heard others (*cough*Matt*cough*) that say it's a TI part built to Ford specs so Ford should bear the entire cost. So which is it? Is it a TI or Ford designed part? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordtech1 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 OK, so I have a question. I've heard it said that it's a TI part and they should share some of the recall cost. OTOH, I've heard others (*cough*Matt*cough*) that say it's a TI part built to Ford specs so Ford should bear the entire cost. So which is it? Is it a TI or Ford designed part? Look at this article thats a response from TI. Looks like it was a TI design. http://newscenter.ti.com/Blogs/newsroom/ar...ord-recall.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Look at this article thats a response from TI. Looks like it was a TI design. http://newscenter.ti.com/Blogs/newsroom/ar...ord-recall.aspx I interpret that to read that Ford provided specifications and TI designed and manufactured a switch to meet them. That still doesn't precisely address the culpability as the specs could have been deficient. I'm not trying to hammer Ford or TI. I'm just interested in the specifics of the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordmantpw Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I interpret that to read that Ford provided specifications and TI designed and manufactured a switch to meet them. That still doesn't precisely address the culpability as the specs could have been deficient. I'm not trying to hammer Ford or TI. I'm just interested in the specifics of the situation. Basically, 10 million parts were manufactured. A couple hundred failed. I would say that's within specs for defective parts. I would say Ford and TI are both somewhat at fault, but really, it is man-made, and defects are to be expected to a certain extent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordtech1 Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 What I don't understand is that TI says the switch is not the only component in Ford cruise system and the switch is not to blame. However, the only ones that catch fire are the switches that leak brake fluid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 (edited) 1) It is interesting that Ford publicly threw TI under the bus. I saw that in the article and figured that's the work of the new management team. 2) It is curious that TI goes to great lengths to defend the switch, instead of saying, "we sold that company" and leaving it at that. 3) One can debate the wisdom of having a cruise control circuit that can be powered up even when the vehicle's not operating (treating cruise like lights)-------------however these fires are unquestionably caused by failure of the switch membrane. Other notes: It is extremely disingenuous of TI to assert that vacuum pressure is "not related to TI's design or manufacture" of the switch---as Ford was almost certainly assured that these switches were suitable to the use they were put to. It is also very curious to note that TI continues to use present tense to refer to their involvement in this. And, most tellingly, they haven't denied helping to defray the cost of the recall. Edited October 16, 2009 by RichardJensen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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