Deanh Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 just averaging BZcat....after all, life's a law of averages no?...and I truly doubt, unless someone has pictures of a dealer principal in an uncompromising position, or personally knows a Dealer, even dealers that get 5 or 6 for the YEAR, there's anyone that will make the bonehead decision to pass one off at MSRP, order or no order....there's no need, and that someone will end up making a profit either immediately by flipping, or at Barrett Jackson 10 years from now...sorry to bust peoples balls over this, and dis-agree with what I perceive as pipe dreams and I don't condone addendums..but...I UNDERSTAND THEM and why they happen...PS, M3s are sold over list on a regular basis as well...but Im guessing you know that.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02MustangGT Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Dean, hate to break the news but there will be 5500 GT350's (R model included) for the 2016 model year. No different than the recent GT500 production numbers. For those willing to wait out the dealer markup, these cars will be sold at MSRP or below. http://www.mustang6g.com/?p=5967 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Dean, hate to break the news but there will be 5500 GT350's (R model included) for the 2016 model year. No different than the recent GT500 production numbers. For those willing to wait out the dealer markup, these cars will be sold at MSRP or below. http://www.mustang6g.com/?p=5967 :happy feet: :happy feet: :happy feet: :drool: :yahoo: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 (edited) 02Mustang...I will believe it when I see it, but please revisit my post...2.5 units average per dealer...there most likely will be SOME sold at MSRP ( loyal customers, dealers buddies etc ) but a majority will be above MSRP...and that said, lets get to semantics...out of 5500 cars, 500 are R's...ONLY 500....MSRP cars..no. So that leaves 5000, theres 8 colors with 3 packages, only other options are black roofs, stripes and Yellow. we ALREADY have a list, do you think if theres alist before ordering has even started most dealers will even consider MSRP....remains to be seen...me, I know through years of experience, chances are EXCEEDINGLY slim....5-10k over would be my guess, possibly more for the 2015s ( even worse given the 50 year anniversary title ) Hate what I am saying all you want, that's from a DEALERS perspective. Edit....possibility if theres a straggler at year end...dice roll, or the Chinese haven't snapped it up yet.... Edited June 4, 2015 by Deanh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 I predict a waiting list and ADP for the first 6-12 months, then MSRP after that. I don't think the demand for a $50K plus mustang will be that high for an extended period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02MustangGT Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Oh I don't doubt an addendum for the 2015 model cars and even the early demand for 2016 models. But to think that addendums will be the norm for all 2016 GT350's...don't believe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 02Mustang GT....So, you obviously think they will be just sitting correct?.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 @akirby, now that I can agree with....however, will Ford just leave well enough alone, or make model changes....whos to say the GT350 will continue production for longer than a year or so?...speculation...but theres always the GT500 rumor?..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 all I know right now, is we cant keep our hands on the lowly eco boost Mustangs and cant get enough of them ( LOT of Asian buyers and inevitable exporters ) watching the Gt350s exploits will be interesting for sure...Havent seen this much hype ( barring the GT ) for 20 years, and that includes the Shelbys...sign of better economic status...maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 FWIW, I believe this car will get a LOT of conquest buyers from certain brands/ models that never would have considered a Mustang before...M3/M4, Audi S4, GASP....vette fanbois, of course im speculating a tad as the car hasn't been tested yet, but comments such as this , WILL spark interest from groups that only ever poo pooed domestics before...the engine outdoes the Ferrari California.....consequently, demand may be increased due to the fact its not just ford fans anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02MustangGT Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Dean, I did not say the cars would be sitting. But they will be had at or below MSRP within 18 months. Unless the GT350 breaks the cycle of the 03-04 Cobras and the GT500 of recent. And you can bet that Ford did not develop a FPC 5.2L for a one or two model year run. The Shelby name will rule the Ford Performance engineered Mustangs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MY93SHO Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 The question is, when will Jay Leno get his? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 02...we will see, Im curious because the interest will have a broader base......and the more demand, less likely "deals".... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02MustangGT Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Dean. Agreed, we will see. I always respect your position as a dealer employee as well as your open minded posts here. Back on the topic of the 5.2....can't wait for instrumented tests on this beast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 Dean, I did not say the cars would be sitting. But they will be had at or below MSRP within 18 months. Unless the GT350 breaks the cycle of the 03-04 Cobras and the GT500 of recent. And you can bet that Ford did not develop a FPC 5.2L for a one or two model year run. The Shelby name will rule the Ford Performance engineered Mustangs. Same thing happened with the GT500...I fully expect idiots to pay more for it for the gotta have its, but if I was going to get one, I have no problem waiting a year or two till the demand comes down. As for allocation...spliting the production run across all Ford dealerships would be stupid. There are areas where a 50K+ Mustang wouldn't sell and would rot on the lot. The more affluent areas would get more and Ford dealer in the middle of run down Louisiana that is just scraping by wouldn't be a primary destination Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 curious...anyone have any ideas what other vehicle this will be shoehorned into....no way its truck bound....mid stream GT knockoff?.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Why not a truck? Throw it in a regular cab short bed and call it "Lightning". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 @Pioneer, never thought of that route....I was focused on low end torque...not 8250 redline... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 The 5.8L never made it into any other car besides the GT500...don't see any reason why the same wouldn't happen again with this engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 silvr, low end torque, or relative lack of, along with substantially higher curb weight, would the engine handle the additional stress?....sounds FANTASTIC on paper though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 It might work in an loominum regular cab short bed....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzymoomoo Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 It might work in an loominum regular cab short bed....... But nobody buys regular cabs anymore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 fuzzy...put that engine and recreate the Lightning...I bet that would change....Ford did relase there were going to be 12 performance vehicles released, correct?....anyone keeping count?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 @akirby...loominum is English pronunciation, here in Murica its loomnum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 @akirby...loominum is English pronunciation, here in Murica its loomnum. or Budweiser cans....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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