Here's Why Our Gleaming Self-Driving Future Has Been Delayed Indefinitely

[silvrsvt]

https://www.autoweek.com/news/technology/a32782600/why-level-5-autonomous-driving-has-not-happened/?source=nl&utm_source=nl_aut&utm_medium=email&date=060820&utm_campaign=nl20559414&utm_term=AAA -- High Minus Dormant and 90 Day Non Openers

 

Doesn't help that it was getting hyped up to help tech companies stock prices

[tbone]

Very interesting article, which made a lot of sense. 

[akirby]

In other words, exactly what some of us have been saying since day one.  Not ready to handle all real world scenarios but may be possible in small areas for specific tasks.

[akirby]

And the ones touting this as a near term certainty were either lying or willing to overlook the obvious problems to further their agenda or self-interests or were just oblivious to the complexity of the issues.

[probowler]

IMO we're far closer to antonymous air taxis than we are self-driving road vehicles.  Hopefully someone at Ford has gotten the message to slap the abort button on this boondoggle.

[akirby]

5 minutes ago, probowler said:

IMO we're far closer to antonymous air taxis than we are self-driving road vehicles.  Hopefully someone at Ford has gotten the message to slap the abort button on this boondoggle.

The technology itself is still useful as a driver aid and accident avoidance.  It’s not wasted.

[rperez817]

Thank you for sharing this Autoweek article silvrsvt sir.

 

"Autoweek attended a great number of these demos in the early part of the decade, and watched as developers and CEOs hedged and carefully promised everything ranging from a revolution in driving in mere years to some form of narrow use of autonomous tech in the far future 

once the legislative framework emerged from the dark ages and allowed for some nationwide uniformity."

 

Legislative framework for AV in the U.S. today is still in the dark ages, and there's still a long way to go for nationwide uniformity. Still, only 2 other countries (Netherlands and Singapore) scored higher than the U.S. on the KPMG AV Readiness Index last year.

 

[akirby]

1 minute ago, rperez817 said:

 

Legislative framework for AV in the U.S. today is still in the dark ages, and there's still a long way to go for nationwide uniformity. 

Did you even read the article?

[rperez817]

1 hour ago, akirby said:

Did you even read the article?

 

Yes sir. The quote about legislative framework was from 2nd paragraph.

[bzcat]

Great article. Very even and sober analysis. 

 

[akirby]

1 hour ago, rperez817 said:

 

Yes sir. The quote about legislative framework was from 2nd paragraph.

 

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But reliable semiautonomous capabilities above Level 3 that could be safely introduced to cars that people could actually buy, irrespective of the regulatory landscape, seemed to hit a wall. 

 

[jniffen]

I read in one forum, either here or The Register (UK IT mag) etc., when a young child sees a beagle, they have a better chance to recognize  a collie as also being a dog compared to computer.

The number of images per objects that could be on the road, and different angles and different actions it can take is just mind boggling. 

 

The article covers this very well.

 

I've deal with electronic technology since 1980 and IT/computers since 1993. 

I've seen far too many times when the item was doing something which made me think, "It can't do this", but yet there is was.

Even if they are able to cover all instances mentioned or even 99% of them, something will fail to cause death or injury.

When that unfortunately happens, whose' responsible. 

 

The one area I'm surprise not so see anything mentioned is the rail system, unless it is being run so tightly, labor wise, removing one more person from the train won't make the difference.

At least with the rail, it' doesn't need to worry to 'keep it between the lines'.

 

I can't wait when the first delivery drone crashes into a car causing property or injuries, you thought seeing the cancer lawsuit ads are everywhere.

 

 

[Joe771476]

If I don't want to drive myself, I'll call a taxi!  Second, AV's might work in Nebraska, but not in he pot-holed, icy, snowy, congested, traffic jammed Northeast.

[rperez817]

2 hours ago, Joe771476 said:

AV's might work in Nebraska, but not in he pot-holed, icy, snowy, congested, traffic jammed Northeast.

 

Ford has been testing AV technology in icy and snowy conditions since 2016. I think it was the first company to do that.

 

[jcartwright99]

Uber built its IPO on the premise that self driving cars were inevitable in a couple years. That and screwing their drivers.