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16 hours ago, akirby said:


Add Zephyr hybrid to Flat Rock, move EVs to BOC and add Nautilus to Louisville.

 

If there is a 4-door Mustang coming, I'd rather Lincoln have a version of that than Zephyr for more prestige to it.

 

Otherwise, I've been saying for a long time that Zephyr and the Evos should come over as single sedan-like offerings.

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18 minutes ago, rmc523 said:

If there is a 4-door Mustang coming, I'd rather Lincoln have a version of that than Zephyr for more prestige to it.

 

Yea, Americans don't care for an anonymous, boring unibody Lincoln sedan like the Chinese Z/Zephyr

 

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33 minutes ago, rmc523 said:

 

If there is a 4-door Mustang coming, I'd rather Lincoln have a version of that than Zephyr for more prestige to it.

 


Luxury buyers prefer hybrids over high performance and RWD.  At least for Lincoln buyers.

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14 minutes ago, morgan20 said:

 

Yea, Americans don't care for an anonymous, boring unibody Lincoln sedan like the Chinese Z/Zephyr

 

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I think it looks great.  Not really any different than Nautilus.  It won’t be a huge money  maker but dealers could use another product in between Corsair and Nautilus and Flat rock needs more production.

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21 minutes ago, morgan20 said:

 

Yea, Americans don't care for an anonymous, boring unibody Lincoln sedan like the Chinese Z/Zephyr

 

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8 minutes ago, akirby said:


Luxury buyers prefer hybrids over high performance and RWD.  At least for Lincoln buyers.

 

I think the Zephyr would be a fine offering as-is.

 

I'm just saying if there is also already work being done on a model that needs a platform mate to help with amortization and can be an offering that "looks better" both visually and brand prestige wise, I'd advocate going that route vs. a FWD sedan.  And offer the RWD model in a hybrid.

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13 minutes ago, rmc523 said:

 

 

I think the Zephyr would be a fine offering as-is.

 

I'm just saying if there is also already work being done on a model that needs a platform mate to help with amortization and can be an offering that "looks better" both visually and brand prestige wise, I'd advocate going that route vs. a FWD sedan.  And offer the RWD model in a hybrid.


In that case I would make the RWD a separate high end model.  Like Lexus did with ES and GS.

Because FWD hybrids are cheaper and get better mpg which is what most buyers care about.  Ford’s RWD hybrid setup is ingenious from a manufacturing standpoint but isn’t the most efficient.

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23 minutes ago, akirby said:


In that case I would make the RWD a separate high end model.  Like Lexus did with ES and GS.

Because FWD hybrids are cheaper and get better mpg which is what most buyers care about.  Ford’s RWD hybrid setup is ingenious from a manufacturing standpoint but isn’t the most efficient.

 

I guess they could go back to 2 sedan offerings.  Zephyr and "Continental"

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1 hour ago, rmc523 said:

 

Otherwise, I've been saying for a long time that Zephyr and the Evos should come over as single sedan-like offerings.


I agree on both counts but I think the Evos is particularly egregious.  I think it would sell very well if priced appropriately.  It’s a very good looking vehicle, with a cool interior.  

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2 hours ago, rmc523 said:

 

I guess they could go back to 2 sedan offerings.  Zephyr and "Continental"


Large sedans are even worse than midsizers and they would have to stretch the current C2 in both directions.  They also killed the transverse V6s and a 2.3L hybrid is probably not enough power for the top of the line Continental.  RWD can use the Braptor 3.0 or the Coyote v8.

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9 minutes ago, akirby said:


Large sedans are even worse than midsizers and they would have to stretch the current C2 in both directions.  They also killed the transverse V6s and a 2.3L hybrid is probably not enough power for the top of the line Continental.  RWD can use the Braptor 3.0 or the Coyote v8.

 

No, Zephyr would be C2 and basically brought over as-is (adhering to local regulations, of course).  I used "Continental" as a placeholder name for the Mustang 4-door-based model - I wasn't proposing a C2 continental.

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10 hours ago, rmc523 said:

 

No, Zephyr would be C2 and basically brought over as-is (adhering to local regulations, of course).  I used "Continental" as a placeholder name for the Mustang 4-door-based model - I wasn't proposing a C2 continental.

 

We more or less already had that and it was built at Flat Rock too. 

 

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6 hours ago, akirby said:


Except it was cd4 with ecoboost V6s.


Right but what is being talked the old continental is more or less the same exact thing, which makes me wonder how viable it would be. It was a full sized product like the new Taurus is in the Middle East but I think something smaller like the Lincoln Z would work better at its size and price point 

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1 hour ago, Sherminator98 said:


Right but what is being talked the old continental is more or less the same exact thing, which makes me wonder how viable it would be. It was a full sized product like the new Taurus is in the Middle East but I think something smaller like the Lincoln Z would work better at its size and price point 


Oh I agree the midsized would be first choice.  I was just saying IF they did a larger sedan it would need to be RWD - C2 won’t work.

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