MarkFive Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 I much prefer seperate wiper and turn signal stalks-something current Ford products lack. I have a Ford Focus. The turn signal and wiper stalks are separate. What Fords aren't like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarShark Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 (edited) I believe in the American worker. In my state, and in the rest of the countries future, we are looking at a recession. Is it a coincidence that this happened after "outsourcing" became a fad?Possibly. I think the fact that people can't depend on their ranch-style piggy banks to finance their new 50" plasma TVs and stainless steel kitchen appliances and decks the size of Madagascar and yes...new cars, is a bigger reason. Consumer spending, last time I checked, was 70% of our economy. Once everyone realizes that it's unsustainable to put yourself that much further in debt every year and stops swiping the plastic......oooh, boy. Back to the Verve. I do like the styling, but I can't help but wonder how practical it will be, especially if we don't get the hatches. Cars this small really need a hatch variant. Of course, I think the same thing about compacts, but no one has one except Dodge...and they don't have a sedan, which is worse. Edited January 13, 2008 by CarShark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted January 13, 2008 Author Share Posted January 13, 2008 I have a Ford Focus. The turn signal and wiper stalks are separate. What Fords aren't like this? Almost all have it together...I like it that way though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Jellymoulds Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Its really nice. I still can't get a correct perspective for its size. It looks much bigger than what people are saying. It also looks way more expensive than the competition in its class. This will compete with an Aveo?? I like the red-walls on the tires as well. I thought the same thing but the report that came with the photo's explains it Auto Blogs says.... "Ford's Verve Sedan concept rappelled to the ground in a smoky haze here in Detroit and the four-door concept proved to be a bit more squat, and less dynamic, in person. The Kinetic design language melds well with the compact sedan, looking more like a Mondeo at 2/3rds scale, which isn't a bad thing. But we're hoping for something a bit more sporting (like it's little brother that ran around the stage) and the Verve didn't quite deliver." http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/13/detroit...ally-in-d-town/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue II Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 I'd buy a car from China if it were designed, developed and produced by one of the Big 2.5 (so no Chery developed or strictly JV developed cars). All the profits come right back to Detroit. We're just exploiting the Chinese for their cheap labor - not helping them in any particular way. How's that for national pride? We're helping them build anti-satelite weapons and more with our bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 I have a Ford Focus. The turn signal and wiper stalks are separate. What Fords aren't like this? Did not realize the current focus has two stalks. But the majority all have one stalk. Just drives me nuts-like being able to just pull the lever to have one pass-not turn it on and off like I do now. Plus the stalk to me is a little short-compared to my volvo it is probably at least an inch shorter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 I like the wiper stalk being separate. It's like the Liberty. If you need a quick swipe from the wipers, you push down on it. You can't do that when it's on the same one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkFive Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 But we're hoping for something a bit more sporting (like it's little brother that ran around the stage) and the Verve didn't quite deliver." You just can't please them all the time. This is one of the nicest Ford products to ever sit on a stage. I think the thing delivers just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcsario Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Its really nice. I still can't get a correct perspective for its size. It looks much bigger than what people are saying. It also looks way more expensive than the competition in its class. This will compete with an Aveo?? I like the red-walls on the tires as well. If it's really the size of an outgoing Fiesta, then it's about the same size as the Yaris sedan or hatch, only lower. Keep in mind it's a concept, much of the brightwork and fancy bits will be gone in the production car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smok Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Really nice, I am impressed. I think this is as nice as a small car can look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Jellymoulds Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 (edited) You just can't please them all the time. This is one of the nicest Ford products to ever sit on a stage. I think the thing delivers just fine. I agree, so its looks like you will be getting the scaled down 2/3 sized Mondeo in the US We will be getting the sporting little number in Europe as a Fiesta, that was running around the stage is this correct? Edited January 13, 2008 by Ford Jellymoulds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkFive Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Keep in mind it's a concept, much of the brightwork and fancy bits will be gone in the production car. It would be really great if the concept wasn't changed at all when it reaches production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkFive Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 We will be getting the sporting little number in Europe as a Fiesta, that was running around the stage is this correct? I think the 4 door looks much better than I could have ever imagined. Back when the idea of the car was brought up, Ford indicated that North America will get a 4 door. This was rather disappointing as that usually means the design will be toned down considerably to accomodate the extra doors and being that the car is so small, the designers will be limited in what they can do. I remember when photos of the Focus hatchbacks first came out and how incredible they looked in comparison to the 4 door. However, its quite a looker I have to say. Nothing disappointing about it at all. Then again, I love the 3 door too. I hope Ford offers it in NA as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 (edited) Except that the concept's flush-fit door window tech would probably add $1000+ to the cost. The Zephyr concept was like that, but the production model got framed door windows, just like the Fusion. In the case of the Zephyr/MKZ, they should have spent the money, IMHO, because it would have added a "sparkle" to the overall fit-and-finish. Edited January 13, 2008 by Edstock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one2gamble Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 this thing needs to get to the market ASAP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkFive Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Except that the concept's flush-fit door window tech would probably add $1000+ to the cost. I hope they keep them - its one of the nicest features on it. When the first-generation Neon came out, Chrysler didn't do away with the flush fit windows and they supposedly made money on the car (mind you, pretty much everything else on the car caused problems but thats a different subject altogether....). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 I agree, so its looks like you will be getting the scaled down 2/3 sized Mondeo in the US To bad we can't get the 3/3 sized one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 For the N.A. version, I like the larger (above the bumper) grill than the others we've been seeing the past few months. I'm hoping the red interior instrumentation is just for show, I loathe red lighting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Jellymoulds Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 To bad we can't get the 3/3 sized one. I have got to agree why go through all the trouble of designing a 2/3 sized Mondeo whats the point? You guys are bigger than us, no offence meant but the bigger Mondeo would have suited the American market better. http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/13/detroit...ally-in-d-town/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkFive Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 OT: went to answer this thread and got the grey screen that says "This Account Has Exceeded Its CPU Quota " - does anyone else get this periodically on this site? Last night I couldn't get onto this site at around 10:00 pm EST. Is it because there are too many users online? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted January 13, 2008 Author Share Posted January 13, 2008 OT: went to answer this thread and got the grey screen that says "This Account Has Exceeded Its CPU Quota " - does anyone else get this periodically on this site? Last night I couldn't get onto this site at around 10:00 pm EST. Is it because there are too many users online? It happens from time to time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 It happens from time to time. The XT server gets kinda bogged-down; the turbo switch doesn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Jellymoulds Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Why did Ford use Mondeo wheels for the photo shoot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Why did Ford use Mondeo wheels for the photo shoot? I guess because they fit and look really good. :shades: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted January 14, 2008 Author Share Posted January 14, 2008 Aren't there wheels just like that for the focus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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