BMW IS GOING TO BUY VOLVO FROM FORD MOTOR

[salsakingcpa]

BMW IS GOING TO BUY VOLVO FROM FORD MOTOR

 

i just saw BMW financials and it made 4.8 billion dollars in 2007, and its finances are really strong meaning its debt to equity ratio of 4. in 2008, it is going to make much more than this.

 

what surprised me is the FACT that bmw's factories are running at 100% capacity so it really needs additional capacity really bad. so just buy out volvo, and now it has the requisite capacity to expand, it will get more product line, eliminate a competitor, and make all kinds of money.

 

it's a shame that ford didn't know how to empower volvo, and make it into a core brand.

Edited May 5, 2008 by salsakingcpa

[suv_guy_19]

BMW IS GOING TO BUY VOLVO FROM FORD MOTOR

 

i just saw BMW financials and it made 4.8 billion dollars in 2007, and its finances are really strong meaning its debt to equity ratio of 4.

in 2008, it is going to make much more than this.

 

what surprised me is the FACT that bmw's factories are running at 100% capacity so it really needs additional capacity really bad

 

so just buy out volvo, and now it has the requisite capacity to expand, it will get more product line, eliminate a competitor,

and make all kinds of money.

 

it's a shame that ford didn't know how to empower volvo, and make it into a core brand.

 

shame, shame.

 

Oh shut up already!

Edited May 5, 2008 by suv_guy_19

[rmc523]

shame, shame.

 

What's a shame is that you're posting on this board.

 

You don't need to make every post of yours into a new thread.

[salsakingcpa]

it is a shame that people like u don't know how to count; why don't u see how many posts i have made into a new thread. this is one reason why the us automakers are in such dire traits; it has employees who don't know how to count. worse, look at the present generation of high schoolers, their math levels are atrociously low. rmc, u, represent america at the highest level, see how and where it ends.

 

You don't need to make every post of yours into a new thread.

[rmc523]

it is a shame that people like u don't know how to count; why don't u see how many posts i have made into a new thread. this is one reason why the us automakers are in such dire traits; it has employees who don't know how to count. worse, look at the present generation of high schoolers, their math levels are atrociously low. rmc, u, represent america at the highest level, see how and where it ends.

 

So maybe every post you make isn't a new thread.....that was a bit of an exaggeration. What I don't understand is why you needed to start a new thread posting the same argument/statement that you posted on another thread that has an almost identical topic theme....the sale of Volvo.

[salsakingcpa]

rmc, please use your god's given brains to distinguish and differentiate the difference between the two. Maybe your god didn't give you brains to do that so i'll do it for you at no charge. Also since you don't know how to count, i'll count it for you. How's that sound to you?

 

There is a huge difference between "volvo must not be sold," and "BMW is going to buy Volvo from Ford Motor"

 

First, "volvo must not be sold" has 5 words, its author is talking about how volvo fits with ford, lincoln, and how good volvo can be to ford, and why ford needs it.

 

Second, "BMW is going to buy Volvo from Ford Motor" has 9 words, and it's talking about bmw mostly. Bmw has capacity constraints (if you don't know what it means, it means bmw is running out of room at its factories, can you understand that, if not let me know, and i'll make it even easier for you so you can understand it, poor rmc). Furthermore, bmw has lots of money to buy volvo from ford, and bmw will make tons of money when it buys volvo from ford. like you, ford lacked god given brains, didn't have a clue of how to liberate its assets and make tons of money.

 

if this is too much for you, rmc, let me know.

 

So maybe every post you make isn't a new thread.....that was a bit of an exaggeration. What I don't understand is why you needed to start a new thread posting the same argument/statement that you posted on another thread that has an almost identical topic theme....the sale of Volvo.

Edited May 5, 2008 by salsakingcpa

[suv_guy_19]

and this is a democratic message board,

 

No its not

[salsakingcpa]

No its not

 

uhh oh really, comrade sub

[Noah Harbinger]

rmc, us is still a democratic country, and this is a democratic message board, if you don't like me posting a new thread. you have multiple of choices:

1. complain complain complain nag nag nag just like u are doing

2. keep u r mouth shut

3. go to another board

4. go to a communist or islamic country since that will make you happy as you sound like a communist/socialist

5. call you mama; so she can calm you down.

 

This is not a democratic message board, it is a board run accord to the rules of those who own it. Freedom of the press means that those who own a press are free to do with it as they please.

 

You are an idiot. I'm sick of seeing your stupid posts. It's time for you to go on the ignore list.

[jpd80]

I recon the guys with contraversial thoughts on Ford or the motor industry should have a

sticky thread or a link so they don't have to keep explaining their beliefs to new comers.

Maybe a protaganist's corner where gloves are off?

Edited May 5, 2008 by jpd80

[papilgee4evaeva]

rmc, us is still a democratic country

 

Actually, it's a federalist republic. Which means we elect people who make decisions for us. That election of representatives is about as democratic as it gets. Don't believe me? Read a newspaper, not a blog.

Edited May 5, 2008 by papilgee4evaeva

[salsakingcpa]

This is not a democratic message board, it is a board run accord to the rules of those who own it. Freedom of the press means that those who own a press are free to do with it as they please.

 

noah, the idiot, spoke; where did i say that this is a democratic press? do u know what the word press means? press means the media, newspapers. I said it was democratic because u still have to follow the rules of the law of US, if you violate federal law, such as discrimination on the basis of ......, then you are liable for discriminatory practices.

 

actually you are the idiot because i have not posted any stupid post until stupid people on this board responded in stupid and ugly manners. I just reacted to your ugly manners. i.e. noah calls me stupid, then I will telll you why noah is stupider, STUPIDER.

Edited May 5, 2008 by salsakingcpa

[salsakingcpa]

Actually, it's a federalist republic. Which means we elect people who make decisions for us. That election of representatives is about as democratic as it gets. Don't believe me? Read a newspaper, not a blog.

 

Very true, still you choose whom you want to elect, so my argument that it is still democratic is valid. It is not like in the movies, you can only choose one person.

[rmc523]

rmc, please use your god's given brains to distinguish and differentiate the difference between the two. Maybe your god didn't give you brains to do that so i'll do it for you at no charge. Also since you don't know how to count, i'll count it for you. How's that sound to you?

 

There is a huge difference between "volvo must not be sold," and "BMW is going to buy Volvo from Ford Motor"

 

First, "volvo must not be sold" has 5 words, its author is talking about how volvo fits with ford, lincoln, and how good volvo can be to ford, and why ford needs it.

 

Second, "BMW is going to buy Volvo from Ford Motor" has 9 words, and it's talking about bmw mostly. Bmw has capacity constraints (if you don't know what it means, it means bmw is running out of room at its factories, can you understand that, if not let me know, and i'll make it even easier for you so you can understand it, poor rmc). Furthermore, bmw has lots of money to buy volvo from ford, and bmw will make tons of money when it buys volvo from ford. like you, ford lacked god given brains, didn't have a clue of how to liberate its assets and make tons of money.

 

if this is too much for you, rmc, let me know.

 

Well, if these threads are different, why did you post the same point in both?

 

And without research, I know that BMW is expanding it's Spartanburg, SC plant to allow for more capacity of it's SAV's. I also believe Z4 production is being moved back to Germany to allow for further increases of SAV production. I wouldn't be surprised if BMW is expanding plants in Europe as well.

[salsakingcpa]

Well, if these threads are different, why did you post the same point in both?

And without research, I know that BMW is expanding it's Spartanburg, SC plant to allow for more capacity of it's SAV's. I also believe Z4 production is being moved back to Germany to allow for further increases of SAV production. I wouldn't be surprised if BMW is expanding plants in Europe as well.

 

That's what you should have asked first, then I would have erased that and just continued with this one. However, you didn't say it, and you also posted on here negative remarks and insulted me, and then you went to the other post, and made accusations that I became a proclomaitor. The reason a new thread was began is because this thread is fundamentally different from the previous one, and deserved a new beginning as we are talking about bmw, and not about lincoln or ford.

 

It's true that bmw is expanding here abroad and in germany but those expansion won't come to fruition until 2 to 4 years down the road to complete, so if you can buyout a company such as volvo, at the same time eliminate a competition, make money, gain market share, gain much needed competition, any intelligent person would do it; of course, except some people on this board such as eggcock, rmc, j-150, rj, and others.

Edited May 5, 2008 by salsakingcpa

[Noah Harbinger]

Actually, it's a federalist republic. Which means we elect people who make decisions for us. That election of representatives is about as democratic as it gets. Don't believe me? Read a newspaper, not a blog.

 

I believe it's usually called a Democratic Republic... which is why the two main parties, who resemble neither of those idealistic polarities, adopt those names.

[Noah Harbinger]

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[Extreme4x4]

You sit here and call people idiots............... claiming that they are too stupid to be able to count. Yet, you yourself, cannot complete even one coherant sentence. You do not know how to use capitals, you do not know how to spell, and you do not know how to use punctuation.

 

When I was a kid, many long eons ago, we used to have a saying. It went something like this. People who are, and think they aren't, think people who aren't, are.

 

Figure it out.

 

BTW, all of your threads are the same. You may add a few words here and there, but the general theme is always exactly the same. It gets old, tedious, and is a huge waste of bandwidth. Kind of like you.

[salsakingcpa]

You sit here and call people idiots............... claiming that they are too stupid to be able to count. Yet, you yourself, cannot complete even one coherant sentence. You do not know how to use capitals, you do not know how to spell, and you do not know how to use punctuation.

When I was a kid, many long eons ago, we used to have a saying. It went something like this. People who are, and think they aren't, think people who aren't, are. Figure it out. BTW, all of your threads are the same. You may add a few words here and there, but the general theme is always exactly the same. It gets old, tedious, and is a huge waste of bandwidth. Kind of like you.

 

Actually you spoke the truth, but other people called me that i was an idiot first. So if you, he, she call me an idiot, then i have the right to call you, he, or she an idiot too. don't complete sentences and don't capitalize words, some times, because this is an informal board. you figured it out correctly all my themes are pretty much the same. but the same can be said about all others on this board who just waste bandwidth by writing god knows un needed blah blah blahs. Since you are judging me and saying i waste bandwidth, why don't you tell other people the same bs you are telling me. Asif. YOU ARE A DISCRIMINATORY PIECE OF.... You got guts to tell me stuff; don't stop there, scrum brag, tell that to others.

Edited May 5, 2008 by salsakingcpa

[salsakingcpa]

You keep talking, but all I hear is

 

i can care less what u do. just like noah got lost, u r a lost soul.

[battyr]

It is not an issue of whether BMW will buy Volvo. It is an issue of at what price. Volvo is such a good company and would be such a good fit with BMW, I am sure they would take them it they could get them for the right price. Same with Ford, Volvo is such a good fit, even if they are desparate for cash they would only sell Volvo for the right price.

 

So does Ford want to give Volvo away? Does BMW want to pay a huge price for Volvo? Remember after buying Volvo, BMW will still have to spend billions to redue its products.

[inteller]

It is not an issue of whether BMW will buy Volvo. It is an issue of at what price. Volvo is such a good company and would be such a good fit with BMW, I am sure they would take them it they could get them for the right price. Same with Ford, Volvo is such a good fit, even if they are desparate for cash they would only sell Volvo for the right price.

 

So does Ford want to give Volvo away? Does BMW want to pay a huge price for Volvo? Remember after buying Volvo, BMW will still have to spend billions to redue its products.

 

 

I could actually see VW before BMW. The product mix just doesn't fit well with BMW. The safety aspct of Volvo fits better with VW and also the turbo technology is something that VW would like to have.

[rkisler]

It is not an issue of whether BMW will buy Volvo. It is an issue of at what price. Volvo is such a good company and would be such a good fit with BMW, I am sure they would take them it they could get them for the right price. Same with Ford, Volvo is such a good fit, even if they are desparate for cash they would only sell Volvo for the right price.

 

So does Ford want to give Volvo away? Does BMW want to pay a huge price for Volvo? Remember after buying Volvo, BMW will still have to spend billions to redue its products.

 

I don't see any fit whatsoever.

 

My opinion on BMW (and Mercedes for that matter) is:

 

They are in a world of hurt on fuel economy. How do you maintain a performance image and German luxury and meet upcoming CAFE/CO2 requirements. BMW and Mercedes both are paying CAFE fines in the US (Ford has never paid a fine), and some of their cars fall into gas guzzler territory with additional taxes (Ford does not have any gas guzzlers that I know of).

 

BMW has Mini and Mercedes has Smart, but that ain't gonna get them there. They will need to make huge investments in fuel economy and I think as part of that plan they will either have to develop a whole series of smaller cars (perhaps under a separate brand) or buy another manufacturer who already has that capability.

 

If BMW/Mercedes can't fix their fuel economy problem, they will have to buy credits from smaller manufacturers. Maybe some upstart Chinese or Indian small car importer will get well. But with exchange rates the way they are, the Germans are already having trouble keeping their margins and they aren't going to want extra euros going out the door.

 

Volvo cars are too similar to BMW and don't add anything to the lineup. And they wouldn't make a major contribution to their fuel economy problems. In addition, we've all seen examples in automotive and other industries where synergies were "right around the corner". But, in fact, synergies take a lot of hard work and a lot of time to materialize. I know how painful integrating Volvo into the Ford system was even though the personal relations were good from the get-go.

 

Just my 2 cents worth, but I don't think Volvo would be a wise investment for BMW.

[battyr]

I could actually see VW before BMW. The product mix just doesn't fit well with BMW. The safety aspct of Volvo fits better with VW and also the turbo technology is something that VW would like to have.

 

I don't know how VW is for cash, they might have it. They are aggressive to expand and prefer upmarket vehicles like Volvo. VW's platforms, engines and transmissions are very comparable or better than what Volvo currently has. It would help them increase economies of scale.

 

I would put Volvos into Porsche dealerships. Volvo would dramatically increase traffic in Porsche dealerships. If you could keep the Germans away from controlling Volvos marketing, Volvo could increase car Sales in the US and China.

 

Problem is that VW likes to be a German company. Will they know how to sell a car that is not German? Can they keep Volvo from becoming German? I am not familliar with VW's other divisions like Seat. Are they sold as cheap German cars or like something else like a high quality Fiat? Are they just a copy of a VW or do they have different creative features?

[NickF1011]

:blah: :blah:

 

It's the darnedest thing!!!! Anyone? Anyone?