TomServo92 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Link Ford has confirmed what we've known for some time: a new 2.0-liter four-cylinder Ecoboost variant is on the way, capable of at least 230 hp and 240 lb-ft of torque. The engine will reportedly give drivers V6 performance with four-pot fuel economy, with possible applications for both cars and trucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Have you seen where the numbers came from? I haven't seen anything from the official press release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 Have you seen where the numbers came from? I haven't seen anything from the official press release. I think they're estimating based on Ford's comparison to the 3.0L V6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92merc Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Get that thing in a Fusion ASAP. That's the perfect slot for it. Don't bother with the Focus as that will then be a "sport" platform. I'd say stick it in a Taurus too, but that isn't where it fits best at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Link PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE in a Fiesta w revo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 We've heard rumors about a four-cylinder Ecoboost under the hood of F-150s, Fusions and Mustangs, too, and in order for Ford to make the new mill cost effective, it has to be fitted to as many models as possible. What are you guys.....Popular Science magazine or what?? Sounds like something they would say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 What are you guys.....Popular Science magazine or what?? Sounds like something they would say QUOTE...will NOT be in an F-150.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 (edited) If that is the estimate, it beats the other DOHC 2.0L 16V I4 T/I on the market (VW, Hyundai for example). Now, I know it is speculative but will that be on premium gas? It's still very good nonetheless. Regarding where it's going, I can see it going in the Fusion and the D30 is going away eventually. As for the Escape, possible but they may wait until the Escape replacement come out. Mustang? Perhaps considering the Cologne is going away but there's a NA 3.7L and the 5.0. If Mustang comes with a Ecoboost 3.5L version, then why not. Trucks, especially the full-size, I have a hard time wrapping my head around that. The current base is a MOD 4.6L 2V w/4A which is 230-240hp 250 lb/ft IIRC. It is pulling some weight and maybe the 6A may help it but it struggles under load. As for the 4 cyl EcoBoost, I personally feel a 2.5L version in the 260-280 hp 270-290 lb/ft range can be used in a Truck platform. Edited July 21, 2009 by Hugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 QUOTE...will NOT be in an F-150.... Well, that settles that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted July 21, 2009 Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE in a Fiesta w revo I could go for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Well, that settles that. sorry....I am speculating ..to put a 235 4 cylinder in a 6000lb truck makes ZERO sense, torque or no torque.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I could go for that. Cooper works who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 If that is the estimate, it beats the other DOHC 2.0L 16V I4 T/I on the market (VW, Hyundai for example). Now, I know it is speculative but will that be on premium gas? It's still very good nonetheless. considering that the 3.5L V6 Ecoboost doesn't need premium gas (save getting an extra 10 HP out of the SHO), I think those numbers are on regular gas and prob be slightly higher then the current 3L V6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkisler Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE in a Fiesta w revo Sure, but wouldn't you rather be talking to a customer next year about the brand new Ford Explorer that gets over 30 mpg on the highway? Ford (Derek) said at the auto show that the 4 cylinder EcoBoost would be available in every car and crossover that Ford makes. (But no mention made of trucks). Sure would make a nice base engine for Mustang with 30+ mpg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ausrutherford Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Its the 2.5 EB that is considered to go into the F-150, not the 2.0 EB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
focus05 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 We know the Explorer is getting it. Ford's been talking about a "30 mpg Explorer" for over a year now. I would suspect that the Edge, Fusion, Taurus and their siblings (MKX, MKZ, MKS) will get it too - possibly all by early 2011. There probably is a point, though, when the returns of the engine are outweighed, literally by the size of the vehicle - I couldn't see this in an MKT, for example, without premium fuel and 250-260-ish torq minimum. I actually don't see this in the base Mustang until at least the new Ranger debuts and assuming the new Ranger carries the 2.0. They'd have to realign the engine for RWD applications. They've done that for the 3.5 because of the F-150, so the Mustang can get it relatively easily, but there is no other RWD applications right now for the 2.0, and I doubt Ford would spend a lot of time on just the Mustang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Its the 2.5 EB that is considered to go into the F-150, not the 2.0 EB. even that to me is a mental stretch.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 even that to me is a mental stretch.... Considering it wasn't available for another division doing EB studies, I doubt it even exists....yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 A 2.5L EB might overtax the bottom end of the engine----close to, if not over 300hp in heavy load applications might break the engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Now, I know it is speculative but will that be on premium gas? That will likely be the "recommended" fuel and required to get the rated power. Unless the new Explorer is on a serious diet, at 230 hp, 240 lbs torque, this will be a rather mild base engine for it. Much more suited for Escape and Fusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 A 2.5L EB might overtax the bottom end of the engine----close to, if not over 300hp in heavy load applications might break the engine. thats exactly my fear....which inherently means it will need to be overbuilt which defeats potential weight advantages and increases circulating mass which slows response, which....which.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupy Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Get that thing in a Fusion ASAP. That's the perfect slot for it. Don't bother with the Focus as that will then be a "sport" platform. I'd say stick it in a Taurus too, but that isn't where it fits best at the moment. With Fusion a nd Escape recently refreshed with new power trains, probably not too soon. With limited numbers availeable upon job one and a new Focus at the same time, I see Focus Sport as likely scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fubbyo Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 A 2.5L EB might overtax the bottom end of the engine----close to, if not over 300hp in heavy load applications might break the engine. The 2.0 EB sounds perfect for an SVO Mustang if the 2.5 is going to step on the 3.7L's toes with 300 HP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 The 2.0 EB sounds perfect for an SVO Mustang if the 2.5 is going to step on the 3.7L's toes with 300 HP. I'll stick w my prediction for the resurection of the SVO ..........3.7 eco...6 speed trans 400hp........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fubbyo Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I'll stick w my prediction for the resurection of the SVO ..........3.7 eco...6 speed trans 400hp........... I guess 230 HP would be pretty weak for an SVO, but I don't see an EB 3.7 when there'll probably be an EB 3.5 already in the same car. Also, I'm having a hard time trying to wrap my head around how a dealer would need to pay me salvage for my Crown Vic (I'm buying it back), but under CARS it's supposed to be destroyed. Could you explain? I"m looking at Fusions if I can get it rebated to about $15.5K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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