Deanh Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Pages 235-236 its on page 232 in mine...WEIRD..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 its on page 232 in mine...WEIRD..... I'm looking at an online version labeled as "2nd printing". Perhaps you have the "1st printing"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Never thought of that...that sucks... Question...on most cars with push button start, do they have keys in the fobs to open the doors? I haven't used one... Yes, see the picture I posted above of the MKX key (I'll post it again:) (It obviously comes all the way out and acts like a normal key.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 I'm looking at an online version labeled as "2nd printing". Perhaps you have the "1st printing"? maybe...that would be my luck for sure...and beleive me, if there IS a weakness to the IA key and push start I will somehow inherantly find it....Im the guy in a 10 acre fiels that steps in the sole Dog stool....seriously....they have already had to break into my fiesta when the detailers left it running with BOTH IA keys in it...and closed the door ( the autolock interface had already locked the doors )....so Tom...see if you can find how to dis-able the Autolock feature if the car doesnt have an ignition switch one can turn to the ON position ( because the IA and pushbutton start does not.....see what I mean about finfding issues? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 maybe...that would be my luck for sure...and beleive me, if there IS a weakness to the IA key and push start I will somehow inherantly find it....Im the guy in a 10 acre fiels that steps in the sole Dog stool....seriously....they have already had to break into my fiesta when the detailers left it running with BOTH IA keys in it...and closed the door ( the autolock interface had already locked the doors )....so Tom...see if you can find how to dis-able the Autolock feature if the car doesnt have an ignition switch one can turn to the ON position ( because the IA and pushbutton start does not.....see what I mean about finfding issues? ) Deactivating/activating autolock/autounlockNote: When programming the autolock feature, carry out the following steps within 30 seconds or the procedure needs to be repeated. If the procedure needs to be repeated, wait 30 seconds between programming sessions. 1. Turn the ignition on. 2. Press the power door lock control three times. 3. Turn the ignition off. 4. Press the power door lock control three times. 5. Turn the ignition on. The module is now in programming mode. Note: A chime sounds as acknowledgement that the programming mode has been entered. The safety belt must be engaged otherwise the Belt-Minder chime will take priority over other chimes. 6. Once in programming mode, the autolock or autounlock feature can be programmed independently of each other. • To program the autolock feature, press the power door lock control for greater than 2 seconds and release. Each long press of the power door lock control toggles the state of the autolocking feature between enabled and disabled. A chime sounds when the feature is enabled or disabled. • To program the autounlock feature, press the power door lock control for less than 1 second and release. Each short press of the power door lock control toggles the state of the autounlocking feature between enabled and disabled. A chime sounds when the feature is enabled or disabled. 7. Turn the ignition off to exit programming. If a setting was toggled, a chime will be heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 (edited) Tom...point is with tha IA and Auto start there is NO ignition switch......so how does one turn it on?....get my drift...and dammit, my car has been comandeered so I am lacking hands on.... Edited July 19, 2010 by Deanh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Tom...point is with tha IA and Auto start there is NO ignition switch......so how does one turn it on?....get my drift...and dammit, my car has been comandeered so I am lacking hands on.... When you get your car again, see my post and look for the override. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAC_Sparky Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Tom...point is with tha IA and Auto start there is NO ignition switch......so how does one turn it on?....get my drift...and dammit, my car has been comandeered so I am lacking hands on.... I know, I've been lost ever since they took the hand cranks off the front of our cars. The reality is that time marches on. Sure there will be some growing pains but I think all in all keyless systems are a great idea. Less wear and tear, etc. People will adjust for what to do and what not to do with the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 I know, I've been lost ever since they took the hand cranks off the front of our cars. The reality is that time marches on. Sure there will be some growing pains but I think all in all keyless systems are a great idea. Less wear and tear, etc. People will adjust for what to do and what not to do with the system. oh, i understand theres always a learning curve...but with every new ( and in my mind un-necessary gimmic like IA and start button ) there are weakness;s such as those being mentioned....weakness;s which ARENT common with tried and true keys and ignition...I'm all for progress, but quite often question its worth..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 When you get your car again, see my post and look for the override. I went through the whole manual...there is NO manual overide in the case of not ahving an IA key, or its battery going dead.....the key can open the door, thats it.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 unless they also take my iPhone 4 (you'd have to kill me to take my iPhone!). This sentence proves you are beyond insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordtech1 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 (edited) Ford vehicle with Keyless ignition have a back up transciever incase the remote battery is dead. Basicaly you place the remote close enough to the transciever or in the back up slot for the car to read the internal transponder. The Taurus has it in the console. Here is a quote out of the fiesta workshop manual. The PATS/backup transceiver is located in the steering column in the same location as a vehicle equipped without IA. If the vehicle does not start normally, place the IA key next to the steering column shroud and attempt to start the vehicle. Edited July 19, 2010 by fordtech1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 And let me add to the pot... I have a Viper alarm system on my car, with Iphone capability. I can essentially turn my car on as long as I have internet access on my phone. So by the time I get to my car in the parking lot, it's already running and the interior is cooled of. OR if someone breaks into it, my iphone will notify me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 (edited) And let me add to the pot... I have a Viper alarm system on my car, with Iphone capability. I can essentially turn my car on as long as I have internet access on my phone. So by the time I get to my car in the parking lot, it's already running and the interior is cooled of. OR if someone breaks into it, my iphone will notify me. I can start mine just by using my mind, and by the time I get there its temperature is to Salmas liking before we drive to the Ritz Carlton for our spa treatments, with guest apperances in the hot tub by Charlize, Ashley and Katy Perry of course... Edited July 19, 2010 by Deanh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 (edited) Ford vehicle with Keyless ignition have a back up transciever incase the remote battery is dead. Basicaly you place the remote close enough to the transciever or in the back up slot for the car to read the internal transponder. The Taurus has it in the console. Here is a quote out of the fiesta workshop manual. The PATS/backup transceiver is located in the steering column in the same location as a vehicle equipped without IA. If the vehicle does not start normally, place the IA key next to the steering column shroud and attempt to start the vehicle. from what I read it doesnt mention if the battery is dead, just low...or if the car doesnt start due to radio interference, i guess if it does that best to replace batteries el pronto...hope it never happens....but if anyone can experience the worst case scenario, I can....so heres another gripe..before you let ANYONE else drive your car they must read the manual and sign a disclosure???? Edited July 19, 2010 by Deanh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomServo92 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Tom...point is with tha IA and Auto start there is NO ignition switch......so how does one turn it on?....get my drift...and dammit, my car has been comandeered so I am lacking hands on.... OK, so you can't turn on the ignition to listen to the radio in IA equipped cars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 OK, so you can't turn on the ignition to listen to the radio in IA equipped cars? you just push the start button...perhaps THAT is considered the same as "On"......learning curve, and i dont have my hands on the car...PLUS the manual doesnt adress that particular situation.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTAUS Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 I can start mine just by using my mind, and by the time I get there its temperature is to Salmas liking before we drive to the Ritz Carlton for our spa treatments, with guest apperances in the hot tub by Charlize, Ashley and Katy Perry of course... Well I'm glad your taking time to lounge and luxuriate, I believe everyone should have a day to spoil themselves. Now whos this Perry clan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordtech1 Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 from what I read it doesnt mention if the battery is dead, just low...or if the car doesnt start due to radio interference, i guess if it does that best to replace batteries el pronto...hope it never happens....but if anyone can experience the worst case scenario, I can....so heres another gripe..before you let ANYONE else drive your car they must read the manual and sign a disclosure???? It works similar to the regular key pats system. A transponder is built in to the key and when the key is close enough to the transciever and key is swithed on, it reads the key. I bet you can take the battery out of the remote and place it next to the column and it would read it and start. Same for the taurus. In the console on the left hand side there is a slot to slide your remote into so it can read the remote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White99GT Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 I don't know why people have such an obsession with keyless systems. They are a gimmick and I hope I never have to have one. For the first time I can remember, I actually agree with Pioneer. Clearly my opinion must be wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notquitesane Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 You do realize that you can unlock the door with the key, don't you? one of my keys failed where it wouldn't start the car. The security light would just flash like mad. They tried reprogramming it and it wouldn't reprogram. They replaced the key. The other key failure was the keyfob part and I was smart enough to figure out that the key fit in the little hole in the door... :rolleyes: they replaced that one under warranty too as replacing a battery did not fix it and according to their tests, it wasn't producing a signal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 one of my keys failed where it wouldn't start the car. The security light would just flash like mad. They tried reprogramming it and it wouldn't reprogram. They replaced the key. The other key failure was the keyfob part and I was smart enough to figure out that the key fit in the little hole in the door... :rolleyes: they replaced that one under warranty too as replacing a battery did not fix it and according to their tests, it wasn't producing a signal. That happened to our pre-pushbutton-start 1999 Maxima. Fortunately, they were able to reprogram our keys (and the service manager looked out at me so that all I had to pay for was the diagnostic :happy feet: ). Sounds like you just got a bad set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StangBang Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 I had a 07' VW Rabbit for about 12 months.... the keys on that thing were 'perfect'. I have a flip key for my 08 Mustang! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twintornados Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Who drives around with both sets of keys? All three of my extra sets are in a lock box. And where are the keys to the lock box? Do you carry an extra key to that?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 And where are the keys to the lock box? Do you carry an extra key to that?? The key is in my head. It's a push button combination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.